It seems like he knew what he wanted tonight. He threw out Ricketts, put Cooper wide and went with an attacking lineup. Honestly, Bono has to stop that first goal. That was shocking.Originally Posted by nonc
It seems like he knew what he wanted tonight. He threw out Ricketts, put Cooper wide and went with an attacking lineup. Honestly, Bono has to stop that first goal. That was shocking.
Toronto FC baby...best team everrrrrrrrrr -Jozy
Bad finishing from the boys, Bono should have had firsst goal, but mavinga got burned for pace
Honestly, Mavinga's willingness to step into space vs. The other three was refreshing... but the defensive bomb scares were too much.
Ditto guy who said "why do we sign these awful euro defenders?"
Caldwell hit the nail on the head with his pregame analysis.
Last edited by ag futbol; 04-08-2017 at 08:52 PM.
He also withdrew Vasquez who was a linking menace and replaced with Osorio, where TFC attack goes to die. You could see how detached it was they were less threatening up a man.
Terrible second half. Bono had a shocker. I wouldn't be too harsh on Mavinga. Moor shouldn't have let him be the last man back. The first goal was an incredible pass..and Bono yikes. We should have been 3 or 4-1 by the half.
Vasquez was running out of steam. I was ok with that sub. Osorio wasn't the reason we lost.
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Maybe Bono has some depth perception problems he's let a few in during his short career where he doesn't even look like he knows where the ball is on meh shots.
I'm fine with our offence, our defence isn't keeping pace though. Entertaining game but with Vasquez now starting above Osorio, the only parts that seem weak are our defenders (except Moor).
Sure, Ricketts did set it on a plate though at the top of the box for him, but Oso being Oso he has to dwell and put a meaningless touch on every ball.
I couldn't believe how that first goal went right through him.
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Yeah. Oso always takes an extra touch. Drives me fucking nuts.
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Atlanta was only going to do 1 thing launch the ball down the wing. Terrible start to the season.
I do not care who we play next game, but if it's another draw or loss the sky is falling.
#lookforanewcoach
We cannot beat a team which is bunkering the whole game.
We cannot beat a team which is playing an open game.
Who the hell can we beat?
The ones like Minnesota?
It's a big concern for me. Year after year, TFC starts ok, has a terrible patch during the summer and revives a bit in the final couple months. Difficult to see how to catch up after dropping so many early points, if the pattern holds.
I don't know who listens to Come on you Reds, but this week Wheeler spent five minutes talking over Terry Dunfield, insisting this was the perfect time to give Mavinga a run in the side. (I don't know if Vanney had told him something) He ignored Dunfield's warning that this Atlanta attack were the real deal and this wasn't the time to take chances, yet still Wheeler kept insisting he was right. I know hindsight is a great thing but I think a lot of us agreed with Dunfield and as it transpired, he was right
Very entertaining exiting open game.
Two good teams. Atlanta South American guys are going to get into trouble for all that play acting. Some Journos and Atlanta fans claiming that wasn't a red. Don't raise your elbow like that
Not sold on Mavinga. But rest of defence played well. Bono made up for that non move with a great second half save.
Bradley played possessed. Vasquez ran all over. Cooper Concacafed them.
Lots of positives. First iffy defense game but best offence game. Should have won 5-2.
Really? Vazquez is mediocre. Certainly no better than Osorio.
I thought the last 15 minutes were embarrassing. We were up a man and Atlanta was dictating the play. I am not a #VanneyOut person but his substitutions were not good tonight. Altidore was off his game and needed to come off for Ricketts earlier.
Vazquez made the pass that opened up Jozy for the flick to Seba on the goal. He was a handful tonight BUT much of that was because Atlanta doesn't have a decent DM.
What I learnt tonight; I was at the game
1) the Chris Mavinga experiment is officially over
2) the Osorio/Cooper debate is officially over sorry Jonathan
3) TFC is very very good, they will finish give em time be patient
4) I hate that Atlanta team
5) MLS refereeing sucks
While it is still early in the season, it is hard not to get concerned about the fact that we are 8th out of 12 teams in the Eastern conference. I think it is time for the team to recognize that there is something wrong and they need to shake things up a bit.
I like bono and his potential but today was one of his worst games. Couldn't kick a ball and that first goal was atrocious. That was an easy saveable ball.
I was very surprised to see Mavinga start today. This was definitely not the game to be starting. Poor decision by
Vanney. I believe Mavinga has potential and good qualities
But today's opponent was not the right day to start and Bono didn't help him on first goal. Didn't see the second goal well so can't comment.
Seba pulled an osorio with a wasted perfect chance within the box in first half. Still can't score from a free kick.
Vazquez looks like a smart player but very slow and doesn't contribute to pressing or any defense. Don't know what to make of him yet.
Haggling and zavaleta surprising me with how well they are developing.
I love Cooper i don't care what anyone says. What he brings to the team is invaluable.
Oh and also I want some more URGENCY. They aren't playing like they want to win. It's depressing. Sick of these draws. Equivalent to 2 to 3 losses. You're playing at home win the fuckin game.
Last edited by DinamoTFC; 04-08-2017 at 10:39 PM.
Oh...and that was very much a CONCACAF vs. CONMEBOL style game. We probably play the most CONCACAF of any MLS team. People whine about CONCACAF diving but CONMEBOL diving is like from another universe.
Funniest moment that showed that was the free kick quick take that was supposed to get Cooper a yellow and ended up in a turnover.
And also when Villalba challenged cooper hard while Cooper shielded the ball out for a goal kick. And then villalba turns starts walking and drops to the ground clutching his back (yet he was raping cooper''s back). Embarrasing.
Great points. Cooper was very strong, and much better than Oso. No debate there. The sky is not falling yet. We should have won the match, but it was exciting and entertaining to watch. Next game please.
I don't think Mavinga was the biggest problem tonight. The first goal was a combination of an excellent pass and a mistake by Bono. The Second goal... where was Moor? where was the rest of the team...and Bono?
We should have been 3 or 4 up by half time. Our big problem is the strikers... Gio is getting a bit better each game... but a long way off top form. Altidore... a good setup man...but where are the goals. Rickett's a shadow of the man from last season. we have no threat from midfield. I am not panicking yet...a few wins and everything will be alright.
But watching this good expansion team with a first time MLS coach reminded me how bad our first 9 years were...absolutely hopeless shambles of a club.
tfc man of the match: Chris Mavinga
tfc best aquisition in the offseaon : Chris Mavinga
best coaching decision tonight: starting Chris Mavinga over Hagglund
my favourite tfc player: Chris Mavinga
Alex Bono looking very like Clint Irwin tonight on breakaways
Last edited by stevep; 04-08-2017 at 11:22 PM.
relax...maybe if our strikers could hit the side of a barn we may win the odd game.i blame this loss totally on vanney,he is so stubborn with his 3-5-2.change it up man,teams have figured it out.where is delgado or chapman,oso jus slows the movement with that extra touch.
We aren't 8th really...there are 5 teams with 7 points. We are one win out of first place. We are un-beaten with our strikers not on form. Not too worried at this point. My biggest worry is the centre of mid-field...Bradley is solid..and Vasquez is showing signs of progressing... we need to see Cooper and Osorio step up... or Delgado and Chapman start to make an impact.
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