Here's what worries me now. They say priority scheduling now. But the Argos draw similar numbers we do (I believe) and their TV numbers blow ours away. I wonder how long it will take for those priorities to flip.Originally Posted by mowe
Here's what worries me now. They say priority scheduling now. But the Argos draw similar numbers we do (I believe) and their TV numbers blow ours away. I wonder how long it will take for those priorities to flip.
Its written into the mlse lease agreement that tfc gets priority.
With the Paint issue, Seattle has said the only time it is an issue is if there isn't enough turn around, if there is a Seahawks game on Thursday and a Sounders game Saturday it is tough for the ground staff to do .
What has been said is that an Argo's game will never be scheduled before a MLS game. So the Argos would never play on Tuesday with TFC playing on Wednesday, but TFC might play on Saturday and the Argos on Tuesday. If TFC has a Saturday and Wednesday game then the Argos are on the Road.
Seattle has been better at making sure that dates don't connect like that again.
TFC can have 24-26 home games during a season (with Friendlies) So the Argo's would have to figure it out. Water base paint isn't enough.
"The CSA" and "easily" in the same sentence, hmmm....
I have faith with the new directors. Especially victor montagliani, he seems to be taking the csa in the right direction. Passed leaders didnt share his vision.
On another note, a lot of the issue with gridiron usage at Houston and Chicago is mandated local use, mostly by high school football teams.
I give it 1 season of Argo usage until there is a push to have the Metro Bowl at BMO instead of the Dome.
So, add 1 game per year to that list of gridiron games.
I give it 3 seasons until a Vanier Cup comes to call.
And, don't forget, Braley has 3 more Grey Cups he can cash in on - he'd love a Vanier Cup/Grey Cup double weekend - wouldn't that be wonderful if we are in the playoffs at that time.
Ofsaa bowl games were at centennial stadium last yr. ron joyce stadium at mac this year.
And vanier cup would be last week of november so unless tfc was hosting the mls cup it wouldnt affect the field.
And of course they can just bid on hosting the events in different years
Conference final second legs were the last week of November.
And there is talk of the Cup Final being played up until Dec 14.
(Don't get me started on what is going to happen when WC 2022 happens in Nov Dec)
I question anyone's commitment to support or follow TFC if they at all think that the argos moving to bmo is a good thing, as a TFC supporter our only commitment should be for what is best for TFC period. Full stop.
I consider myself a man of principal, as such, if the argos to bmo happens I personally will never watch or support TFC again. Because it will mean a complete lack of commitment by ownership to protect the interest of the club and professional soccer in my opionion.
This does not have to happen, and if it does I'm out.
dont think its a good thing. Only a sensible thing given the options. Im a huge canmnt and tfc supporter as well as the cfl. They arent mutually exclusive.
Might not be, but your a pointy ball fan which I happen to think is one of the most boring pro sports in the world, you have a divested interest in seeing the argos at bmo, I don't. Which means I reserve the right to think the argos to bmo is the biggest bunch of bullshit in the world, as a soccer supporter and a MLS TFC first soccer supporter( I've stopped watching other soccer for the most part and only watch MLS exclusively outside of champions league/euro cup) I am completely enraged that this might happen, to the point that I would walk away and start following and supporting another MLS side that places soccer as its first priority.
you're entitled to your opinion as i am to mine. Cheers
Agreed, seems we agree to disagree. Hope to meet up with you some match day for a pint or two. Cheers
May I suggest, as we've talking about supporting in general, that it doesn't take you switching teams to show your feelings on the matter. As mad as this makes you I'm sure you've enjoyed following your local. You never going to BMO doesn't belittle you as a supporter. Catching every game on tele or down the pub and having a gab here, Hell coming to T.O. for away games at Joe's shows a commitment and dedication that not everyone is able to do.
If it does or doesn't go down, know I'll be there at Joe's for away games. Hope to see you there.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
I see what your getting at, and yeah maybe I might be a tad over the top.. tends to happen being welshMay I suggest, as we've talking about supporting in general, that it doesn't take you switching teams to show your feelings on the matter. As mad as this makes you I'm sure you've enjoyed following your local. You never going to BMO doesn't belittle you as a supporter. Catching every game on tele or down the pub and having a gab here, Hell coming to T.O. for away games at Joe's shows a commitment and dedication that not everyone is able to do.
If it does or doesn't go down, know I'll be there at Joe's for away games. Hope to see you there.. And yeah I love supporting K-W United, have seasons and am thankful that I can take my boy to see live matches 20 mins from home.
Speaking of Joe's, is the atmosphere on game days conducive to bring a 4 year old, it's been a few years since my wife and I have made it to Joe's before a match, mainly because we favor taking the train in these days. Would love to get the boy out for a March to the grounds this year, as he loves the club and was right in the middle of the post game supporter rally after the Portland win, trying his best to chant and dancing up a storm.
Ps. His favorite thing is to walk around singing TFC-CHA-CHA-CHA TFC-CHA-CHA-CHA, and he automatically assumes any soccer team wearing red is TFC. Might just be the dad in me, be he makes my day!
Question away but not here.
Everyone is entitled to support the way they want. You are free to attend or abstain or protest in a way you see fit but there is no need to call out other people's dedication to this club.
It won't be tolerated. Please refrain from this line of attack again.
Thank you for your co-operation.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Noted, wasn't meaning to attack anyone directly. Will do a better job of policing myself in the future, my apologies to anyone offended.
Excellent, sounds like we'll have to take the early train down and join the masses. Cheers fellas.
http://cfldb.ca/stadium-status/toronto/
this article has some informative background for where we find ourselves now with the argos a
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Good read, leaves me full of dread that it might actually happen. Oh well though, it's not my stadium nor my soccer team to ruin, just along for the ride for the time being. Will keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't go through.
Pardon me if I don't really care about an opinion piece on a CFL blog.
Has about as much weight and depth as twitter.
The most hopeful section of that CFL blurb (imho) - my underline below. The problem remains that the Argos are just not to be trusted to be the drivers towards the best (or any)two sport integrity solution. They are a sinking ship and have been for decades now. If the NFL ever creates an award for inspiring the most people to become fans of the NFL - the Argos would win it every year. To think that any of the remaining Argo fans think that Mistake by the Lake version two is anything but a disaster in the making...but I guess beggars can't be choosers..
"Options to protect the integrity of the field for both tenants have been suggested including a hybrid natural/synthetic surface, grass varieties that stand up to athletic use, moveable field turf surface to be placed on top of the grass surface for football games and painting and removing lines for each sport as necessary."
The mistake by the lake was deemed as much for the weather as much as the design of the stadium. It may be a mistake to move them back there but not because of the same level of discomfort for the fans. BMO would at least have a roof and could never be the wind tunnel the previous stadium was.
A movable surface on top of grass can be done 2 ways - cheap so the grass suffers or
incredibly expensively to preserve both surfaces. NOT likely with the teams we're talking about.
FORMER FULL TIME KOOL-AID DRINKER
Hear, Hear, hey, hey. I was at The Grey Cup 1982. I remember that cold, cold rainy day. One set of stands covered, the other exposed. The chanting of "we want a dome" (82 was the first year that beer could be sold in Ontario stadiums!!!). I say flip a coin on the question of weather versus design as the basis of the "Mistake". Hey, it was an awful design when the Argos were sole sports tenants prior to the Blue Jay era. The CNE built it for grandstand shows and various events like car races and police games and Scottish marching band competitions. The Argos as orphan tenants goes back more than a half a century...
Fully agree that the movable surface on top of grass will not be likely considering the Argos have no money, lose money every year and can't be trusted to act in their own best interest, never mind care about a soccer pitch...
i have a question about CFL and MLS teams sharing the same stadium. Sorry if it has already been answered at some point earlier, but you know when the whitecaps and the BC Lions played out of that one stadium when BC place was being renovated.... well didn't that one have natural grass?
Empire was artificial turf
Largley noted as about the worst surface in the MLS outside of the skydome.
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Well, now that MLSE gave the city a $100,000 "gift" to keep some rinks open maybe they can use that leverage to keep the Argos out?
Wishful thinking, I know, but at least they are buddy buddy for now.
Sshhhh, or the City will have to return that money as well. They already had to return $100k to GFL...
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