Hmmm...using Rob Ford as an example now is equivalent to Godwin?
If the worst thing you've ever been told on the internet is that your logic failed on one point and the example provided to rebutt you on that one point happens to be the most relevant one we all know about (ie Rob Ford), then you're getting off pretty light.
I never get this outrage people have at somebody making the effort to prove them wrong. Its not like somebody is sticking a fork in them. Heck, I've had my logic and long held ideas insulted on the internet by Nuclear Engineers, Theoretical Physicists, Academics of various fields and some of the most adept philosophers and thinkers in North America and Europe. I can tell people, you havn't experienced anything until your well crafted, you thought, and well worked on views on something, crafted over 2 hours, and posted with much confidence and sincerity is shredded in totality about 50 seconds later by somebody using only 8 words...and that was by a 60 odd year old homemaker from Maine.
Aaa...good times.
Anyhoo, in this case, you've been told why some particular ideas you put into this discussion are wrong, by more then just me.
But, hey, claim victory, act incredulous that I dared to say your ideas were wrong and used an emoticon that you found abhorrent and used an example that you think went too far. Whatever it takes for you to feel good about yourself.
I'm on here for one reason.