best part of Altidore to TFC deal is Old Man Bill losing his shit. it's absolutely hilarious
best part of Altidore to TFC deal is Old Man Bill losing his shit. it's absolutely hilarious
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
New CP article: http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/sourc...with-altidore/
Polish those rollerblades, ready, set...And two sources with knowledge of the deal said Black Cats striker Jozy Altidore will become a Toronto FC player.
The U.S. international, who has agreed to terms, is due in Toronto on Thursday for a medical with a contract signing to follow if all goes well.
MLS is a funny league with really goofy rules. It's extremely jarring given how this sport operates outside this continent.
@SoccerByIves: The year was 2007. Altidore was pretty dominant as a 17-year-old playing next to Juan Pablo Angel. Think he’ll score 15+ for TFC in 2015
$7.5M valuation for Altidore. I have nothing against him, but that shows the world, especially the transfer market, is in the grips of madness.
I'm not really bothered by this stuff so much compares to what goes on in Europe where agents run everything. it's fucked up either way, but it actually scares me I live in a world where an agent has enough influence to get someone to pay 50 million for David Luiz AND get him on the world team of the year.
Really? I don't pay that much attention, but he seems to go on like this about how his team is the greatest in history, and KC is the greatest, a lot, for a guy whose team won one title.
http://www.mlssoccer.com/ccl/news/ar...ampions-league
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“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
“Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.
I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’
And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”
-Eduardo Galeano
any spies at the ACC tonight?
Am I missing something or is it weird that this isn't yet part of the "news" on MLSSoccer ?
Report: New York Red Bulls lose out on Jozy Altidore; Toronto FC wins the race
(sorry - no sour grapes emoticon)
So this is where I look big for twelve.
I liked Ives view on the Jozy acquisition. I can live with 15 goals from JA .
It's not a good day to be an Red Bulls fan, I guess.
Oh....the Red Bulls are......
"Failure simply isn't an option at this stage. TFC pushed its chips to the middle of the table when it splurged on Bradley and Defoe and reinforced its bet by making savvy acquisitions elsewhere. This collection of players is capable of delivering on the promises made during the close season. There are no more excuses available for TFC. Only success will continue the process of atoning for the past and establishing a higher standard for the future." FOX Sports
that's a very simplistic view of it. A) defoe would never give given us us 25 goals in a season because he wouldn't have been healthy enough to do so. He broke down in his first year. B) Altidore provides a lot more in terms of build up play than Defoe does, enhancing the ability of those around him, which Defoe was entirely incapable of.
The internet is full of name callers. Has always been true. Archer is neither relevant nor effective in his bile.
I found some of the discussion points in that thread interesting - seeing stuff from the perspective of a fly over team in a small market is helpful.
We are creating a stir. Nice to be doing that.
No cash involved according to this http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/...dore-1-7051198
A near record MLS fee according to Larson
Guess the truth is in the middle?
I should have made my point in more detail. If we are going to succeed we need goals from our strikers and a DP striker should deliver in that range or they aren't worth the money, particularly if he is replacing someone who had that potential. If we only replace Defoe's actual goals, we will be about the same - likely to miss the playoffs. But if we have a player who can score at the rate that a healthy Defoe would, we have a real chance to be a very good team. And that I hope is our goal.
I was sitting around last night thinking the same thing.
Then I thought back to how the last generation felt about inflating prices on the market. While 7.5 is a crazy number, its just a number and those numbers are never going to go down. Just like groceries dont get cheaper. It a fact of life now.
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For sure their is a difference in class between the two players, but over the season I could see it being a wash.
The odds of actually having a health Defoe over the course of the season are very low - based on his past injury history. 10-15 over the course of a season would be a reasonable expectation from JD, with an outside shot at 20-25 if he stayed fit (he'd likely score that many if fit - but it's an outside shot that he stays fit for a season).
Applying that to Altidore who doesn't have injury problems - I would say 10-15 would be a decent and quite possible return from him - with an outside shot at 20+.
I think the bigger difference is how the team around Atlidore looks. Defoe was an unreal finisher and could score a goal out of nothing. I don't see Atlidore doing that. If we actually manager to build a team that can provide service up front for the first time in the history of our club, he'll do okay.
And yet he didn't come back for the last games when it was said he was cleared to. Guess he didn't want to play through that. People need to keep perspective on what is a rumour and what is fact. We don't know how hurt or committed he really was. He's last seasons news at this point anyway.
Way to put the failed expectations on another player.
Not that I disagree with that possible output. In my ideal scenario I'd rather see both Jozy and Gila just under 20 and share the wealth.
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Regarding Jozy - the times I saw him play in the EPL, he looked like a lost little school boy. He had no idea how to move off the ball or run channels or any of the things that a striker needs to do at that level to create spaces to score. He won't be facing that same level of organization in the MLS.
It sort of reminds me of Eddie Johnson. Decent scoring record in the MLS. Went to the EPL and totally flopped. Went on loan to the Championship a couple of times and totally flopped. 2 goals in 71 appearances in England. did a bit better Greece but still flopped - 5 goals in 19 appearances. Then came back to the MLS with Seattle and scored 17 goals in 38 games and then 12 goals in 27 games.