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    Not worried at all. We just won the leagues first triple, lost and replaced our Rb, can and likely will add high quality depth. The old TFC days are done

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    I have full trust in both Zavs and Haggs at RCB. Especially with even better cover of Mavinga and vdW beside them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Chevy396 View Post
    He demonstrated his quality when Beit. was injured. He was a CM in Europe. He is, in my opinion, better than Osorio or Delgado. (does anybody believe Osorio will consistently elevate his game to that crazy final display?...I couldn’t believe what I was watching).
    He hasn't demonstrated anything that would make you think he is better than Oso or Delgado. Osorio showing what level he can raise his game to sets the bar for him. Good coaching will get out of him more consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Not worried at all. We just won the leagues first triple, lost and replaced our Rb, can and likely will add high quality depth. The old TFC days are done
    Agreed, not that concerned ever. Other teams have gotten better.... on paper.

    Repeating won’t be a cake walk, but then again it never will be in this league. There’s no reason to panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    He hasn't demonstrated anything that would make you think he is better than Oso or Delgado. Osorio showing what level he can raise his game to sets the bar for him. Good coaching will get out of him more consistently.
    Hassler did score a couple of beauties, has a good work rate, and awareness. I for one, would like to see him try at CM.

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    Hasler is a very good player. He's so much better then Bieta not as good defensively but makes up for it in work rate. Not a liability. He is versatile and that is a great thing to have on any MLS team. Watching him last season I would have started him over Bieta and any game of the week, my personal option Bieta is way overrated. No skill at all and lucky most times than not. Bieta 5 hasler 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19Barrett19 View Post
    Hasler is a very good player. He's so much better then Bieta not as good defensively but makes up for it in work rate. Not a liability. He is versatile and that is a great thing to have on any MLS team. Watching him last season I would have started him over Bieta and any game of the week, my personal option Bieta is way overrated. No skill at all and lucky most times than not. Bieta 5 hasler 7

    really?? Bieta has 'no skill at all and lucky most times'??? Seriously?

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    Alex Bono has more skill. When you watch him play 1 v1 he will 98% of the time back pass. He will only take a player if he's got a step on him and he won't do that with a simple skill move my 12 year old and pull off but put the ball past the defence and chace it down. Hassler has beat more players one on one in his limited time than Bieta did at TFC from day one. I am glad he is gone that side needed improvement from the very beginning. The only time TFC looked really good down the right side is when Edwards and Hassler played those positions. Mind you I do think he is a solid defender just not creative enough in attack.
    If Morrow can be the similar player he was last year and VdW upgrade we will be way more dangerous on all fronts this season. It will be night and day

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    Bieta has 2 career goals and played 216 matches Hasler played 12 for TFC and scored 3. Tell me who is more dangerous....? It's time we move on from Bieta love fest he is not good enough for this team! The bar is set a lot night throughout the entire squad. This team will and and should never settle for mediocrity we are the best team in MLS HISTORY and let's keep it that way

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    Hasler started 7 games, 5W 2D 0L

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonc View Post
    Hasler started 7 games, 5W 2D 0L
    7 of them he came off the bench

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    What you fail to realize is Beitashour provided balance when Morrow was attacking, he has always played defense first... Also, getting goals from any defensive player is a bonus not the best stat to use. BTW Edwards was terrible on the right and boarder line terrible defensively on either side

    Beitashour did set up Cheryou's goal in the semis against Montreal. Beitashour is more of a true RB versus a RWB.

    He will go down in history as he started for the first team ever to win the treble. IS VdW more talented yes, but the question is how will he adapt to the MLS and more importantly how Vanney sets up the tactics as with Beitahour you knew game in game out what you were going to get. A solid dependable defender who occasionally whip in a fantastic cross.
    Last edited by TheGoodson; 02-12-2018 at 02:20 PM.

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    I have to agree that I prefer Hasler to Beitashour. Though it's obvious that Beita is a much better defender than Hasler I can't think of a single time I've seen him caught out for it. When we're playing formations where your fullbacks aren't traditional in that they are expected to play almost as wingers and fullbacks at the same time it's important that they have the ability to penetrate and pose a goal threat, which Beitashour never did. In Hasler's first game he was constantly angling to put himself in a position to shoot.

    Definitely not mourning the loss of Beita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19Barrett19 View Post
    7 of them he came off the bench
    Just double checked, started 10 games actually! Only entered twice from the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonc View Post
    Just double checked, started 10 games actually! Only entered twice from the bench.
    Bieta served his purpose and will be remembered as a good soldier for this club. Right now this team is probably better on the right side without him .... can't wait for kick off!

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    Most teams would be happy with ANY of these guys as their RB/RWB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoodson View Post
    He will go down in history as he started for the first team ever to win the treble. IS VdW more talented yes, but the question is how will he adapt to the MLS and more importantly how Vanney sets up the tactics as with Beitahour you knew game in game out what you were going to get. A solid dependable defender who occasionally whip in a fantastic cross.
    Or in 2017 terms: how will the team replace Will Johnson? Needless to say I think this is a manageable problem to have, if it even is one.

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    These signings are great and all, but TFC still lack of starting quality CM.

    This is something that needs to be address especially if TFC wants to make a run in CCL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    These signings are great and all, but TFC still lack of starting quality CM.

    This is something that needs to be address especially if TFC wants to make a run in CCL.

    Hmmm...

    Bradley
    Delgado
    Osorio
    Vasquez
    Chapman
    Fraser
    Hasler

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Hmmm...

    Bradley
    Delgado
    Osorio
    Vasquez
    Chapman
    Fraser
    Hasler
    Osorio is too inconsistent while Delgado is decent but with TAM TFC can get someone better. Outside of Bradley and Vasquez, rest of TFC midfield is either too inconsistent or inexperience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Hmmm...

    Bradley
    Delgado
    Osorio
    Vasquez
    Chapman
    Fraser
    Hasler
    Tigres:
    Vargas
    Carioca
    Duenas
    Zelarayan
    Vasquez
    Torres

    Sorry but we aren't up to scratch with the best in CONCACAF

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC07 View Post
    Osorio is too inconsistent while Delgado is decent but with TAM TFC can get someone better. Outside of Bradley and Vasquez, rest of TFC midfield is either too inconsistent or inexperience.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Tigres:
    Vargas
    Carioca
    Duenas
    Zelarayan
    Vasquez
    Torres

    Sorry but we aren't up to scratch with the best in CONCACAF
    our starting 11 is certainly up to scratch with the best in the continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    our starting 11 is certainly up to scratch with the best in the continent.
    Bruh come on. Have you seen this Tigres side its basically 12-15 DP quality players.

    I'll be happy for a decent quarterfinal showing no shame in going out to Tigres

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Bruh come on. Have you seen this Tigres side its basically 12-15 DP quality players.

    I'll be happy for a decent quarterfinal showing no shame in going out to Tigres

    I'm very confident our starting 11 would hold up just fine should we meet Tigres. The problem would be if we aren't able to field our best 11 due to suspension or injury or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molenshtain View Post
    I'm very confident our starting 11 would hold up just fine should we meet Tigres. The problem would be if we aren't able to field our best 11 due to suspension or injury or whatever.
    That's part of the issue as well though. Tigres gets an injury to anyone and they're still Gucci us on the other hand not so much.

    This is getting off topic, but at the end of the day actions speak louder than words and when we get knocked out to Tigres in the quarters it'll become physically evident (though I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong).

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    TFC vs. Tigres in the quarters is like Barca playing Bayern in the quarters - it happens and the loser is in no way the 5th through 8th best team on the continent.

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    I have to agree with Portu... Tigres are the class of Concacaf half of our starters would not start for Tigres

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    Tigres are ok, not doing so well atm, that being said they're heads and tails above MLS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossington Mental Youth View Post
    Tigres are ok, not doing so well atm, that being said they're heads and tails above MLS
    Yet Giovinco, Altidore, Bradley, Vazquez and maybe Van Der Weil and Auro (depending on there form) are at the same level of there top 11.

    Giovinco is one of the best free kick specialists on the planet and it's something they can't match. We will really need Morrow, Mavinga, Moor and Delgado to hold there own though.

 

 

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