I'll predict that if/when Carver is fired, Mo goes back down on the field himself.
I'll predict that if/when Carver is fired, Mo goes back down on the field himself.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
I think they need to get back to basics...too much messing around with technology for fitness and game reviewing....they need to be on the pitch with a ball and pylons, and by pylons i don't mean the players.
Well since we are onto Leafs comparisons here it goes. Ron Wilson took a team this year who was supposed to be utter shite by all accounts and somehow got them to play some pretty good hockey at times. In fact he's so good, he managed to play us out of a shot at Tavares. You can see right now that with the right players, Ron can take this Leafs team back to the playoffs without a problem.
Carver on the other hand has never shown that he can take a bad team and make them perform up to or even better then expectations as Ron did. Instead, he has actually managed to make this team perform even worst then most people expected. This year, he's had an entire pre-season with the right players to work with and we are off to a worst start then last year. Not only that, the scariest thing of all is that we have a better team on paper, but yet we play the exact same system of long ball that has proven time and time again to be the worst system in all of football.
It is for this reason that I say Fire Carver! and keep Mo (for now). He's one CB from completing a very good team on paper, minus the coach of course.
I completely agree with this post. You see, good coaches and good managers deliver the goods right away. They don't use stupid 5 year plan excuses to cover their butts. Same thing with Brian Burke. He's a man with a plan. You can tell that by the way he has gone around doing player acquisitions and such. He was given the reigns with some severe handicaps (bloated salaries, no draft picks, poor talent etc) and already he has started to make a difference.
On the other hand, we have people like Carver and Mo who have very little history of success (if not a history of failures) and we can begin to see the pattern continue on right away. If they were proven individuals at their previous positions, I would be willing to give them all the time in the world. But with these two, I'm afraid that I honestly don't see anything worth while. Their past instills very little confidence in me.
I'm willing to bet that if we have a losing record in the league by the end of the home stretch part of the Nutralite Canadian Championship (with losses to both Van and Montreal) Carver will be sacked.
Just my guess
I know I'd stop believing in Carver and our players "if" that did happen.
For the record, I don't think this will happen...but if it did, the combination of media and supporter pressure would be too great to ignore.
Um....just trolling along and a question comes to mind: and puhlease do not read anything into this... Why, as people are calling for Carver's head, do we see the repeating phrase "mo would throw him under the bus"?
It seems like a mixed message.
Are you asking why we want him fired and then state that "Mo will throw him under the bus ? "...if that is the question, its pretty simple. No one disputes that John is a genuine, and nice guy, but in the view of some is not doing the job. On the other hand, if Mo feels the pressure on his own job security, JC will be the fired without a doubt, regardless of whether he is the cause or not. I do not think those two opinions are in contradiction. I think those sentiments are a reflection of what some think of Mo's character.
Not on topic totally but...
I really wonder how the quote "the fans think I shouldn't play Barrett" even came to be spoken by Carver?
How would he know about the rantings of a few message boards? Why is it worth mentioning?
^ thats your opinion. I happen to think Mo would throw his mother under the bus if it meant a few more days on the "5 year plan" train...
I see, it seems as if the hierarchical structure of the Toronto FC front office has been incorrectly assumed by most, if not all of us.
Mo Johnston doesn't actually have any authority to do anything ... not totally surprising. Not to bring in a DP ... and not to axe John Carver.
I guess we didn't have to read into it ... I'm sure we would have eventually reached this conclusion in year 5 of what is quickly becoming a debacle of a franchise.
You've made no secret of how you fel about Mo. It clouds everything you say.
My description of the GM - coach relationship isn't an opinion it's what happens consistently in sports. When it happens at TFC (and someday it will, every coach is hired to be fired) it won't be personal, it'll have nothing to do with character, it'll be the way things work in the real world.
You are right. I do not like Mo as a person (I must qualify that I have had limited interaction with him but that is my opinion and I am usually right about people). I also think Mo should be fired when/if JC is fired, as I hold him even more accountable than JC.
Yeah, get rid of Carver and bring in someone new and watch our boys produce the same results while everyone here screams bloody murder and calls for the new coach to be canned again - and the cycle continues over and over without end and without the positive results we expect and demand. Sounds like a smart plan to me, folks.
i know everyone is pissed that we lost last night
but calling for carver's head is a bit much
we are supposed to be supporters
i am sure the whole team was disappointed too
in case you didnt watch the same game i did
the boys fought back from a 2 goal deficite only to get ripped off by a poor call
in the last few minutes - but a hand ball in the box is a penalty
thats football
wow 2016 and things are looking up --- come on you reds lets go
We can't even string three passes together?
Ok.
This is not simply about one result. This is about a trend of entropic play that shows no signs of improvement.
Issues that we were dealing with last year are still painfully present.
Alan Pardew is looking for a job right now