Voyaguers Cup Final 2nd Leg - IMFC @ TFC Wed Sept 25 7:30pm - I Want It All

[jazzy]

Vanney's strategy was fine. If the players had finished better TFC would have won in regulation. Jozy was particularly poor, perhaps exhaustion.

Predictable comment but no , with this talent they should be winning vs this opponent. Vanery smothers the natural talent of all these players with his rigorous hold on playing ‘his ‘ style . We kill fast breaks , either always passing back , letting the other team regroup or , crosse to nonexistent , slow attackers . We had a lot of crosses and corners to nowhere . He should know the teams weakness and frighin practice them , hmm. Penalties , ever won any of them . Each of these players are playing like they have an extra 100 lbs on them , or really tired of playing under Vanneys rigorous structure . Results are the proof , even for his cheerleaders . Still with his disrespect of winning Concacaf , remember his dismal attempt at a winning line-up ? It’s better we don’t represent Canada , Vanney would only underestimate the opponent ,...again .

[Oldtimer]

Predictable comment but no , with this talent they should be winning vs this opponent. Vanery smothers the natural talent of all these players with his rigorous hold on playing ‘his ‘ style . We kill fast breaks , either always passing back , letting the other team regroup or , crosse to nonexistent , slow attackers . We had a lot of crosses and corners to nowhere . He should know the teams weakness and frighin practice them , hmm. Penalties , ever won any of them . Each of these players are playing like they have an extra 100 lbs on them , or really tired of playing under Vanneys rigorous structure . Results are the proof , even for his cheerleaders . Still with his disrespect of winning Concacaf , remember his dismal attempt at a winning line-up ? It’s better we don’t represent Canada , Vanney would only underestimate the opponent ,...again .

I suggest reading "Pep Confidential" by Marti Perarnau, a journalist who was given pretty well unhampered access when he was at Bayern Munich. You'd see that one of the most brilliant football minds this generation has his players play "his" style, and Pep is very rigid about it. He's won everywhere he goes using his style, "smothering" the player's natural way of playing (it was very hard for German players to play his style, which is not at all typical of the Bundesliga). You'd get a better idea of what Vanney is trying to do. Vanney is no Pep, but he's a student of Pep and others who is trying to learn the lessons.

As far as the players passing back this game... that was mostly Morgan, who as I pointed out Vanney substituted early, and a lot of people called Vanney out for making that substitution because they didn't see what was going on, but Vanney did. That's why there was much less back-passing and much more attacking play in the second half of the match. Vanney has been pushing a fast attacking style this season instead of the more methodical method that took advantage of having a Giovinco, and when the players do it, it unbalances the other team (like it did LAFC, TFC is really the only team that took it to them this season).