If they are going to use a 4-2-3-1 with wingers, as appears likely, then I suspect they are actively pursuing trades in the midfield as we are very deep there. You could play Oso, Deleon or Chapman as one of the three with either Shaff or Gallardo as a true winger; play both Shaff and Gallardo with Oso beside Bradley in The 2; play Delgado or Fraser in the 2; and You have Oso and Chapman as back ups for Poz and Fraser for Bradley. In a 3-5-2 there are more possibilities but I think you end up with Oso Delgado/Fraser and Bradley inside with Shaff, Deleon and Gallardo on the outside. Quite interesting to have this depth but possibly a luxury - suggests to me that the trades they lauded to will include a midfielder. And given that lineup, it’s likely Delgado or Deleon to be moved, or possibly Oso.
Really? No recollection of that. Did he get the time to develop in that position though?
Lovitz was signed by Impact in Feb 2017, over 2 seasons ago.
dont focus on that, focus on Kaye
or Telfer (thankfully hes technically still under TFC)
or lets go further back... Laba
or Plata
or Frei
or Sam Cronin
or Beitashour
am I missing anyone?
Im sure other teams have a similar list, but it still stings
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Lets not re-write history, pretty much nobody had an issue with Lovitz being let go at that time.
I recall people here mourning Gilberto and wishing he was back too.
Lovitz was truly a bottom of the barrel player here, but after a bit of time with MTL has hit the gym hard and looks reasonably decent at times. Could end up being a decent MLS journeyman type.
Or, he could end up like Warren Creavalle, who sucked here when he was stuck out of position at RB then ended up playing well as a DM once we traded him. Then again, he only looked good for a bit and has since disappeared into obscurity (despite his streetwear stuff).
It’s a bit luck of the draw, I guess, but some of it has to be the FO’s treatment of the situation and ability to spot talent or play to a player’s strengths rather than seeing them as pegs in a system, or maybe a motivation issue. Nobody knows at this point...
people are talking like lovitz is the 2nd maldini...i didnt watch the game saturday was he that good?i think we won 2 nil ...lol
We scored an insane free kick and a goal directly due to Piette getting injured. Lovitz was one of the best on the opposing team despite being a TFC reject on < $100k.
It’s being talked about because we have previously let go of players who ended up better elsewhere, when it would be beneficial for them to be better while here.
Historically we’ve been good at bringing in players that are already talented / established and seeing them through. Identifying solid prospects or developing players... not so much.
More of a focus now, as we’re getting further away from the championship season. If we win only a minority cares what our player composition is. That said, this league (not just TFC) needs more local talent to spur interest and provide a connection to the community.
I didn't mean to stir the Lovitz pot, lol.
The fact that nobody is talking about Kinumbe at Montreal proves my point. Once you get beyond the starting defenders, the drop off is steep and expectations are low, and nobody looks at the backups. This applies throughout MLS. So I have no problem with Morgan being on TFC as a "backup." He has a great attitude, is cheap, and can slot in on those occasions when he's needed.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
I don’t get the Kinumbe reference. Can someone fill me in?
If only we still had "not an ordinary right back".
Lovitz was tough to let go of at the time as he was young and hungry with upside but we built THE championship team that year so in retrospect it was fine. I would definitely have preferred a Telfer situation where we loaned him down a league.
by the way Telfer is lighting it up lately. wow. He looked so good for the 20 minutes we played him when all hands were needed on deck.
Steve Goff reporting that 1 MLS team has approached DC United about trading for Asad's rights.
Just as an FYI, Janson has signed for Velez Sarsfield. Currently managed by Gabriel Heintze.
We must have seen something in Lovitz. We traded to get him back the day he was taken from us by NYCFC in the expansion draft.
I did. I thought he was good for us, a good utility wide player. For what he cost it seemed stupid to drop him.
At least with Raheem, Kaye and Hamilton they all reportedly had attitude issues in training, so there was some justification for writing off the obvious athletic ability. But Lovitz worked hard and deserved to stick; I thought the same about Tosaint. Yeah, he was limited, but he was dangerous late and had thirteen goals off the bench for us over a couple of seasons, not bad for a guy who'd never regularly had a chance to play as a striker before us.
I felt the same about Telfer going down. Perhaps it's something major I'm not seeing like read of the play off the ball leading to defensive mixups; but he looked super solid and we were short of wide players.
I dunno. I think there are a lot of decisions at this club that seemed to be based on politics or character and not skill. With young players, that seems shortsighted. It's not like they replaced any of them with someone better.
This could have been the case during the expansion draft (we brought back Irwin too), but it wasn’t so much the case a bit further on:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...pact-1.5095594
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto