This is true. U-Sector has been around for quite a while. In fact they were a group many years before the groundwork to bring an MLS club into the city was even laid. It's funny how the popularity of TFC just exploded in 2007. Nobody could have foreseen the sorta sell-out crowds we had in the first few seasons.
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But that's not how it works in the rest of the world either.
In a big stadium, there can be dozens of unique supporters groups, and usually they work together on projects while maintaining their individual character. Some groups prefer to be hard-line about things, and other tend to be more welcoming. In Marseille there's even a supporters group in a handicap section for handicapped supporters! Some groups are people who live close to each other outside of the stadium, or happen to sit in one area or another. Groups can come together to work on big projects, but it's not uncommon to have multiple groups represented.
The idea that all supporters should fit into one group is laughable. I've met so many different people though TFC, and there's so much unique individuality that it couldnt all be contained under one group's banner. The goal should be to find unity within the groups on projects, but while respecting that different people are attracted to different structures.
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Yes but people view facts in different ways. The important thing is how the current groups move forward together and I think the relationship between groups has and will hopefully continue to strengthen.
You need to stop with the mistake talk.
there are no mistakes.
Groups and individuals make choices.
like anything, things start and end.
there are a million cliches..."all good things come to an end" "rather burn out than fade away" "all moments meant to pass."
don't disrespect other groups by saying they made mistakes.
if you want to chat history over beers at Joe's with people, that might be a better venue.
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It's true that U-Sec were "the first", although RPB eventually gained greater membership. And everything you said is true - no one could have imagined how much support for this club would explode back in 2007. But it is interesting in that the early U-Sec boards are still accessible on the internetz, and it's cool to go back now and again to see what people were saying back in 2006 leading up to our debut.(Ahh, I actually miss those days - all the unbridled optimism before 8 years of ineptitude made many of us jaded ) Not to say it doesn't exist, but I've looked on waybackmachine for the RPB boards (and the precursor to redpatchboys.ca, forget what it was called) prior to 2008 and haven't found them. But re-reading those old posts from U-Sec back in the day brings back the nostalgia, provides a historical record, and is a true gem. (eg. people actually being excited that the likes of Adam Braz were part of the inaugural team, lol).
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Biggest reason for us to adopt the 'no talking about other groups' policy is that a lot of really silly stuff gets said by a lot of different people. When its on these boards it reflects this group, member or not.
So going to meetings with the other groups tends to get fairly annoying when you spend time clarifying or defending some ignorant comment made on the internet. It causes mistrust and really damages the ongoing relationship between all groups. So for unified support to happen there needs to be a degree of respect and shit talking another group online typically isn't the way to achieve that.
So if we want to list the groups and have some banter fine, its not a problem. But the challenges in front of every group are different. What works for 15 guys is different than what works for 30 people, different again for 100 and another challenge for bigger groups. We all take different approaches with the team, some want all out war, some want the bare minimum and others crave a deeper bond. While the idea of 'learning from past mistakes' is noble, really we all talk and have come to an understanding as groups that we all have different priorities. One last note on that is yes - we actually do talk and share as groups. We actively look to independently learn and support one another in and out of the stands.
Last edited by Phil; 01-30-2015 at 08:30 AM.
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And of course there are small supporters groups who are glad to be a small part of a larger collective ... like us ...
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