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[Futbolista]

Kelly should be writing articles about cooking or gardening...not Football!

All teams go to the process, Central Americans, Islands and Norhtamericans...yes is more difficult for us but I rather have them face strong opposition than weaker teams geographical farther. By Facing either a mexican or mls side our team can improve quality and if they are out sooner this year, so be it. We are in a rebuilding processes. Success in the MLS I say should be more important than "Champions" at least until the team find some winning ways and a strong core. Baby steps....! ok

[ManUtd4ever]

Hey guys,

Hope you don't mind if I add my two cents.

I think it's a bit unfair to suggest MSM didn't provide ample coverage of yesterday's game.

All the major newspapers were there and filed reports. Sportsnet aired the game nationally (nationally!) across all four of its main channels. We had major coverage on sportsnet.ca (both in the buildup and the aftermath, including match highlights).

I'll admit it's unfortunate that FAN 590 didn't really touch on it this morning. But that's only one medium. There was plenty of coverage of this game from different outlets and across several mediums/platforms.

John Molinaro
sportsnet.ca

My comments weren't directed at you John, as you're one of the few exceptions in this market, and you have always fought the good fight with respect to meaningful football coverage in this town.

I agree with your post to an extent, but the post game coverage in the aftermath of a significant victory against an alleged rival has left a lot to be desired to be honest. The highlights were buried on Sportsnet Connected and Sportscentre last night, and there has been no relevant discussion on the Fan590 or TSN 1050 today either.

[tfcleeds]

John, I was referring to coverage in a general sense, not specifically last night, but your points are well taken. You do more than your fair share, and your contributions are always appreciated here. Cheers.

[johnmolinaro]

My comments weren't directed at you John, as you're one of the few exceptions in this market, and you have always fought the good fight with respect to meaningful football coverage in this town.

I agree with your post to an extent, but the post game coverage in the aftermath of a significant victory against an alleged rival has left a lot to be desired to be honest. The highlights were buried on Sportsnet Connected and Sportscentre last night, and there has been no relevant discussion on the Fan590 or TSN 1050 today either.

I hear you and I understand.

Consider this: If the teams don't really take it seriously (as evidenced by the starting lineups and the Montreal coach admitting afterwards it wasn't a priority) is it not unfair to chastise the media for not going overboard with its coverage?

John

[johnmolinaro]

I hear you. Honestly, I think MSM in this city could do more in general sense, but then I'm a bit biased on this matter.

[Globetrotter]

^this is the internet. This is where trolls come to complain about life.

[reggie]

the FAN590 has become a 24/7 bluejay infomercial propaganda machine.its embarrassing...it painful to listen for more then 5 min...

[Kaz]

My comments weren't directed at you John, as you're one of the few exceptions in this market, and you have always fought the good fight with respect to meaningful football coverage in this town.

I agree with your post to an extent, but the post game coverage in the aftermath of a significant victory against an alleged rival has left a lot to be desired to be honest. The highlights were buried on Sportsnet Connected and Sportscentre last night, and there has been no relevant discussion on the Fan590 or TSN 1050 today either.

John I think Toronto, Edmonton and Vancouver all took it seriously. Toronto played 5 Canadians I think that is how it should be.. this is the CANADIAN Championship... I think Vancouver playing 1 Canadian is shameful.

More so as has been said a few times, CONCACAF doesn't take Canada seriously, so why not take the opportunity to play Canadian talent and have them play as best as they can... (though the first half was painful)

[mowe]

Anatomy of a Goal: Jeremy Hall wins individual battle to score for Toronto

[mdc 77]

I have to agree with John Molinaro here, people seem to like to complain about coverage all the time. Yesterday's match was well covered. Also this hate for Kelly is puzzling, Im far in the minority here but i think he's a fantastic writer. I guess some people just can't get past the club being called FC. I don't agree with his article today but thats fine, but in my eyes he's still one of the best in the country.

[Wagner]

I have to agree with John Molinaro here, people seem to like to complain about coverage all the time. Yesterday's match was well covered. Also this hate for Kelly is puzzling, Im far in the minority here but i think he's a fantastic writer. I guess some people just can't get past the club being called FC. I don't agree with his article today but thats fine, but in my eyes he's still one of the best in the country.

Kelly one of the best in the country??

i guess to each their own.
but that is the first I've ever heard that.

Brunt and Arthur I'd put at the top.
not Kelly.

I question why the Star forces Kelly to follow TFC when he appears to not like it.

[Canary10]

I have to agree with John Molinaro here, people seem to like to complain about coverage all the time. Yesterday's match was well covered. Also this hate for Kelly is puzzling, Im far in the minority here but i think he's a fantastic writer. I guess some people just can't get past the club being called FC. I don't agree with his article today but thats fine, but in my eyes he's still one of the best in the country.

He is a good writer. His ability to make a point by setting up strawmen and using lots of sarcasm is a skill. He has more in common with the English football writers than North American writers in that regard. Read the Fiver in the Guardian and you'll see similar writing. He has mistakes in the article, which doesn't help his cause. I actually agree with his points in this case. I want this to be a better tournament, and want to win it, but I have no pretense that it doesn't negatively affect MLS play, and that the deck is stacked against Canadian teams, who really can't compete with Mexican teams anyway. I really think it's played a part in how bad TFC has been in MLS in the past three or four years - it's a huge load so early in the season.

[ag futbol]

The thing about Kelly is that snark has a place in writing every once in a while but to overload on it so heavily just makes you a douchebag.

Everything he writes about soccer he seems preoccupied with positioning himself as this hip, ironic, oh-so-clever, cultured local writer, bringing the world game to peon masses. It's just a load of shit. He doesn't dig for stories like a Neil Davidson or John Molinaro does. He's not analytically insightful like a Kristian Jack. He's not even in a position to be preachy from a high ground, similar to the way the ex-player pundits are at times.

He's just a guy with an over-sized sense of entitlement and below average insight, which he continually dresses up in his own bravado. His only advantage is that he works for the star (who seem pretty hands off with their writers) and since he seems to care so little for covering the team, he's not afraid to dump on them unlike a few lap dogs out there.

On balance, I would say the article he published contains plenty of valid points. But coming from the guy who continually complains about everything it loses its zeal.

[Canary10]

^ Ha, I think that's all probably true.

[Yohan]

V Cup is not pointless but Kelly does have a point.

It is a fact that CCL takes a lot out of teams. TFC isn't equipped to play multiple competitions right now. We never have been. And I'd argue it's one of the reasons why TFC's form falls during summer and fall.

If TFC makes CCL (only to lose in group stage likely) but that hurts playoff run, then what? Does Payne and Nelsen get the flak for not being able to put together a team competitive for both competitions right now? (And most MLS teams don't have the depth to compete in both competitions either)

We should learn to walk before running. Put together a solid showing in the league before going after CCL. Bitching about poor league form while wanting CCL just don't make sense to me.

[Fort York Redcoat]

We should learn to walk before running. Put together a solid showing in the league before going after CCL. Bitching about poor league form while wanting CCL just don't make sense to me.

Deal. I won't bitch about poor league form as I want CCL. Promise.

[Canary10]

I figured out at one point we were playing a game very 3.5 (or so) days last year in the first six weeks of the MLS season. No one had a schedule so onerous. Absolutely a contributing factor to the MLS losing streak last year.

[Yohan]

http://www.timescolonist.com/sports/...-team-1.139061

Jeremy Hall

[T-boy]

If I was just to forget Hall from last season, and think of what I've seen of him so far this season, he would be my favourite player! Definitely "most improved" player so far this season. He's a different player, might as well be a different guy compared to last year. And still improving every game. Good for him!

[Huyton]

He is a good writer. His ability to make a point by setting up strawmen and using lots of sarcasm is a skill. He has more in common with the English football writers than North American writers in that regard. Read the Fiver in the Guardian and you'll see similar writing. He has mistakes in the article, which doesn't help his cause. I actually agree with his points in this case. I want this to be a better tournament, and want to win it, but I have no pretense that it doesn't negatively affect MLS play, and that the deck is stacked against Canadian teams, who really can't compete with Mexican teams anyway. I really think it's played a part in how bad TFC has been in MLS in the past three or four years - it's a huge load so early in the season.

May I be the first of 1,057 people to agree with you?