The draft pick is in 2014, so it is (hopefully) less likely to be a top pick than if it was in 2013. The pick may or may not be high enough to draft a quality player that will evolve into a MLS starter. TFC's performance next season will determine the true value of Vancouver's return in this deal.
As for drawing an anology between acquiring Nick Garcia and Eric Hassli, I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but Hassli is younger than Garcia was when Mo acquired him, and I think it's safe to say that Hassli has a much higher ceiling as a player in his respective role.
Not sure I'd agree with you on that front.
A lot of big names have come through that Superdraft like Brek Shea, Will Bruin, Teal Bunbury, Chris Pontius and others. Notable TFC selections have included Luis Silva (2012), Sam Cronin (2009), Stefan Frei (2009) and Maurice Edu (2007).
Interestingly, like the Leafs, TFC will have only drafted in the first round twice in the 5 drafts (2010-2014). We traded a pick for Adrian Serioux, 1 for Nathan Sturgis and now this one for Hassli.
I think this is the case where this new system of Mariner's is better suited to him.
Mark Weber of "The Province" wrote this a few weeks ago:
Rennie's 4-3-3 system, which defensively looks more like 4-5-1, demands plenty of running up top, and Hassli covers far less ground than Sebastien Le Toux or Mattocks. That's part of the reason why Hassli's seen so few starts
Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Wh...#ixzz21DohCKJ4
Giving up a 1st round pick is huge considering this is TFC's only real window into the young talent pool in the USA. It would be a huge price to potentially pay if Hassli becomes a "rental" in a season with little to no hope.
If Hassli ends up staying for just the 14 remaining MLS games and we get beat out of CCL Group Stages, this might be a move that comes back to haunt them. That said, I didn't like when we had to line up against him so if we are going for hoof ball, he is a pretty intimidating guy to hoof it to.
True, but word is that he wasn't seeing eye to eye with Rennie, his role had diminished considerably, and he was outwardly upset with some of the latest roster moves that saw the likes of Chiumento and Le Toux jettisoned out of town.
I think he will be reinvigorated playing in the only city that matters in this country.
I think it's a good move if he can stay healthy
Good move for remainder of season? Or through 2013?
Have we set another MLS record by having 4 DP's (with another possibly to come) during one season?
The Star article tonight indicated Mariner believes our back 4 is fine and just needs some subs - i.e. we won't be getting a CD DP.
I think his skills is class, but not his attitude, i use to hate him everytime he comes to Toronto, but now, let see what he can give us!!! Excited to see him on the pitch, hope he will heal up soon!
did we also give up the rights to Jacob Lensky in the deal with Vancouver?
Where did you read that: Mariner does not say that he is not looking for a top class centre back
Here's the two articles
http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer...uver-whitecaps
http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer...ronto-fc-match
Please tell us where he says that?
Our academy has produced one good young MLS player so far. The NCAA has produced exponentially more.
I'm with Pookie on this one - I like your optimism, but there's no indication yet, that our academy is somehow ready to shoulder the load to the point where we can throw away draft picks.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Was just going to say that. Further, as in promising players like Kevan Aleman, getting them to sign with TFC is and will be a challenge.
It's a US league. 3 Canadians, 8 Internationals and 19 roster spots that can be made up of US or Canadian players. Like it or not, you have to get your Yankees somewhere. Considering some of the recent names to come out of 1st round of the MLS Superdraft in the last three drafts (eg. Omar Gonzales, Chris Pontius, Sam Cronin, Stefan Frei, Teal Bunbury) it is absolutely silly to ignore it.
Again, Hassli can likely excel in Mariner's system. If he stays through 2013 and we can get in the playoffs, it will be great. If we've sacrificed a future draft pick in exchange for an aging veteran that will produce no results... welcome to Leaf Nation.
According to Duane Rollins on twitter we did
Duane Rollins @24thminute
Correction on the Jacob Lensky rumour: Now hearing that #TFCtraded his rights *TO* #WhitecapsFC.
NCAA may have been around a bit longer than our academy. I think we rushed out some of our players. Henry is ready, Lindsay was, Stinson is there and the rest are close at best but still, it's less of a crap shoot as you've seen what the players can do, in a system you design, in full CSL seasons. And for the NCAA, didn't we take the can't miss O'Brien White early in the first round? Not exactly all gold is it?
some other GA/Nike players:
Tim Howard, Landon Donovan, Josh Wolff, DaMarcus Beasley, Maurice Edu, Yura Movsisyan, Carlos Bocanegra, Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Ben Olsen, Bobby Convey, Bakary Soumare, Sacha Kljestan, Michael Parkhurst, Danny Califf, Freddy Adu, Davide Somma, Danny Mwanga, Brad Guzan and Michael Bradley.
I think those guys did well in the league and abroad. Some of the recent GA players - Frei, Alston, Gonzalez, Bunbury, Bruin, Maddocks, Wenger, Rowe - all have which have been an impact on their respective teams.
Not saying that all NCAA players pan out, but for now NCAA is still a better option, until our academy develops, which will take a few years.
Another thing about academy players, do they want to sign for TFC or rather go to college in the US? I know one academy product that got offered a contract from TFC , but decided to go to Akron instead.
one of my favour players in MLS is Hassli. I like his playing style... play with HEART.... Out of all FWs in TFC history, I only think Dichio and Koevermans are the only 2 FWs that play with heart and give out 120% every game. I honestly think this Hassli will bring TFC into playoff this year. we are only 12 pts behind which we still have half of the season to catch up. We are good enough in the backline as long as no injury.