Originally Posted by CretanBull
yup i actually do think that
go look at other leagues and how they've done stuff like that
yup i actually do think that
go look at other leagues and how they've done stuff like that
Sex acts on a banner? Oh the horror.
people that support this team, did one that hinted on 2 girls, 1 cup
guess if we do it it's okay
*shrug*
or we've made a banner that has a religious figurehead, flipping them off
*shrug*
Both of which I find in poor taste.
*shrug*
never said i didn't think that either
i just find it odd how people are having their comupins (see even i can use made up words!) about this, but yet not even bat an eye of complaint about stuff that we've done in the past.
Personally, I didn't have a problem with either. The 2 girls 1 cup was clever, the offense was directed at their players. I can understand how some people might have been offended by the Jesus-finger, but even as a Christian I wasn't offended.
Not sex, forced sex.Sex acts on a banner? Oh the horror.
how do you know its forced and if it is how do you know the girls don't like to be forced? some are into that.
calm down, oldertimers! this whole thing is silly.
so you're saying a video that has garunteed to have offended thousands more (not me, i found it hilarious), and to have some of us go ahead and make a banner around it is okay?
but having a banner where some shittly drawn sheen holding two chicks hair, is wrong?
now does that make sense? really i'm lost. the first one clearly hurdled the offensive line and then some.
I never compared the ad to anything. I just posted it after I read the bit about sex being used everywhere. The comment reminded me of the ad.
But now that you bring it up, I think they are comparable actually. Both refer to woman as sex objects don't they? Actually the car ad is even heavier in that regard. The sheen-esque tifo was more a play on charlie's recent exploits mixed with footy crests than a view of woman in general. Where the car ad pretty much puts in writing that most man would sleep with a woman regardless of her sexual history if she was hot enough..
That to me is as degrading as the tifo, if not more. But I guess vulgarity is in the eye of the beholder.
As far as "If you don't know that going in, that's your problem." I agree, but I also believe if a person disagrees with the charge or the punishment they have the right to argue it, publicly and privately in this case, which is what they are doing.
7 fucking pages on this? (ohh forgive me if i have cursed and swore on the board)
Jesus, I didnt realise the group have been over run by soccer moms. At least bring my drunk ass a peanut butter jelly sandwich and a juice box for the game tommorrow night please....
careful peanut butter allergies are out there
better make it cheeze wiz and jelly
The fact that the lesser, inferior, teams are in a role of servitude is the message of the banner - the fist full of hair implies force.how do you know its forced and if it is how do you know the girls don't like to be forced? some are into that.
calm down, oldertimers! this whole thing is silly.
HAHHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA, Yeoman stikes! Im sorry should i delete my comment? Dont want this thead to stretch into another 3 pages and get off topic with people talking about the merits of MLSE selling peanuts at the games.
ummm, my old lady loves it when i grab a fist full of her hair? Im offended dude, what are you implying?
You accused someone of the EXACT SAME THING you did in the Leaf thread.
Yes, because we referenced a pop-culture meme and put their players in the roll of shit eaters. I didn't say that it wasn't offensive, I said that I didn't have a problem with it because the offense was directed at their players.
Yes, because of the way it depicts women - its made worse by the fact that the reference to Sheen is so poorly drawn that the overwhelming majority of people who saw that wouldn't have made the connection to him. Most people who saw that would think that it was a banner of a male San Jose fan grabbing a female LA fan by her hair - it conjures imagines of violence and rape - and thats the clear intended message of the banner. They're not trying to say "We're better than you, so if you're into it come on over and you can give me a blow job if you like" it's "We rule, you suck - so suck it".but having a banner where some shittly drawn sheen holding two chicks hair, is wrong?
players are humans to you know?
they have thoughts and feelings to?
still projecting an image that shows what we are at any given time
What you do with your old lady is clearly consentual. What that San Jose fan is doing to that LA fan isn't.
Im fairly certain when charlie sheen has sex with his goddess though, it goes down just as the banner depicts
How do you know that? Your just assuming. The cartoon LA fan wasnt complaining. I didnt see any bubble letters comming from there mouth suggesting they werent into it.
Lampooning a public figure - an athlete, a politician, a celebrity etc. - even to the point of offense has a level of social acceptance that doing the same vs a group - especially a perceived minority or socially disadvantaged group - doesn't.
so where's the group in that picture then?
Moderator
Except that there is absolutely nothing on the banner that states that or depicts that.
But hey! Why get bogged down with the details?
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
The banner was meant to be insulting, depiction of consentual sex between opposing fans isn't insulting.
Moderator
^ Which would explain why almost everyone here agrees that it's not a very effective banner.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
Do you think having an oppenent on her knees held by her hair is meant to convery consent?Except that there is absolutely nothing on the banner that states that or depicts that.
But hey! Why get bogged down with the details?
Women
so you're mad at the fact that it's the women thing? right
again, you're now drawing lines in the sand that you can't just s curve around
i'll bring it back
where's the line then? again, two girls, one cup is okay? but this isn't? how?
Moderator
You obviously don't get oral a lot. There's lot of ways a girl can position herself to perform fellatio. On her knees happens to be a popular one. That doesn't necessarily indicate the use of force. In fact, it's a HUGE assumption to do so.
Last edited by Cashcleaner; 04-12-2011 at 08:52 PM.
Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.
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