Toronto FC not getting a DP until the season

[ben_vw]

It's not the end of the world...

http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/arc...1/07/5534.aspx

[Parkdale]

somewhat misleading title there Ben.

Toronto FC won't get DP before season starts

[ben_vw]

then fix it Mike.

[ACSertL]

somewhat misleading title there Ben.

Toronto FC won't get DP before season starts

That's the hallmark of a great headline

I agree with Kristian Jack on pretty much all of the points. Wait till the summer and see what the options are. Besides, the contract would be pro-rated as well wouldn't it?

[Roogsy]

Is that our Chewy commenting on the Footy blog? If so I agree with him. I am not as expectant for a DP as I am some solid moves. If Mo brings in somebody to shore up the backline, at this point I am willing to see what this team does. Maybe after the European season ends, we could talk about picking up a goal-scorer if we are still having problem putting it in the back of the net. What I want is some consistency and some gelling by the team at the start of the season unlike the debacle that was last off-season.

[Parkdale]

then fix it Mike.

naw.... you've got the formula down right. Bring them in with an exciting headline, then break it to them softly.

[olegunnar]

Thank you DeRo.

Your hijacked pay increase will be taken from the 1st half of the season's DP cap hit. roughly $200,000

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Didnt carver swear to the death...if there was no DP coming in...he was out of here!?


have we improved going into our third season........sure we have by bringing in DERO....but will it be enough to challenge for the title?

We will be fighting for our lives to make the playoffs!

The only gurantee will come at seasons end...when TFC announce the ticket prices will be going up again..for year 4

[invictusTFC]

I wouldn't be upset if we didn't sign a DP. Lets face it, a DP is a huge salary cap hit, and not many clubs with a DP have not been hugely successful. As Kristian Jack states, "the club already have a lot of money invested in players that does not give them too much flexibilty to have another $400,000 cap hit." I would rather the club invest in a solid CB and forward around the $200-300k range. The addition of DeRo was huge and should help out the offense, now all the team has to do is shore up the back end with some experience.

[Shakes McQueen]

While I don't necessarily disagree with Kristian's assessment, I don't see any evidence our sources cited in his article, that categorically states there will not be a DP.

- Scott

[tfc]

guys, we shouldn't be blaming dero, we should blame the stupid mls cap. Mo is trying to build a strong team, where every player has an important role in our success, not just two or three outstanding players with a bunch of duds. its hard to do that when the cap is 2.3mm bucks or whatever. we should also be happy that guys are taking paycuts, or being flexible in their salaries so we can achieve this success. if we can pull in a solid veteran defender or two, i have a feeling we will make the playoffs this year, especially if we see some standout performances in wynne and barrett, both of whom i think will have great seasons

[Stryker]

Thank you DeRo.

Your hijacked pay increase will be taken from the 1st half of the season's DP cap hit. roughly $200,000

I guess watching Episode 3 has me drawing Anakin Skywalker comparisons. "You were the chosen one".

[flatpicker]

Before DeRo came into the picture I was supportive of the DP scenario.
But now I am not anxious for it.
I think there is enough room under the cap now to get a decent striker and defender without using up DP money.
Once that happens I think Toronto will be in a good position to challenge for the title.
Go find them Mo and Carver!

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Before DeRo came into the picture I was supportive of the DP scenario.
But now I am not anxious for it.
I think there is enough room under the cap now to get a decent striker and defender without using up DP money.
Once that happens I think Toronto will be in a good position to challenge for the title.
Go find them Mo and Carver!

He's apparently in Brazil as we speak.....

[flatpicker]

^ I have heard they play soccer in Brazil... is that true?

[T_Mizz]

I think we should have a solid team for sure with the young'ens stepping up and some veterns with the experience we need. But most importantly, Mo will deal away our draft picks and bring in some more seasoned vets. I think this whole DP in the summer thing will work out as we won't have to pay a transfer fee and it will be less of a cap hit, and I'm still not sure what position we need a DP for anyway. I think its entirely possible that we might need the first DP CB.

[RPB_RED_NATION_RPB]

Oh well....the DP thing had my blood pumpin......i still have faith in MO......putting together a solid team for..09!

[tfc]

I think we should have a solid team for sure with the young'ens stepping up and some veterns with the experience we need. But most importantly, Mo will deal away our draft picks and bring in some more seasoned vets. I think this whole DP in the summer thing will work out as we won't have to pay a transfer fee and it will be less of a cap hit, and I'm still not sure what position we need a DP for anyway. I think its entirely possible that we might need the first DP CB.

I was also under the impression Mo was looking at Hume as a potential DP before he got injured... Not sure when he was supposed to be playing again, but he may also be waiting to see whether the injury will affect his play before he brings him in ... if hes still interested in him, that is.

[Super]

I was personally hoping for a DP striker. I worry we'll walk into another season with goalscoring problems. I'd hate to go through that again.

[reggie]

oh well....there is always porn for some DP action....

[ginkster88]

Our chances haven't changed in the slightest. As Paul said, it has to be the right player. Who that is is another matter, but it just so happens that the right player is not available right now. If he were, you can bet that he would be signed. If it still looks like they can't sign their guy mid-season, they won't sign a DP mid-season. The lesser cap hit this year is attractive, but irrelevant; you would hope that a DP would play for more than one year, and he would still be a $400 000 number in 2010 (they could be hoping for a salary cap increase, but if not they would be in the same situation cap-wise a year from now if they were to sign a DP now or wait until the summer). It is all a matter of the right player, the only timing that is involved is when that player comes available.

[ilikemusic]

I am absolutely shocked!!!





I didnt think I would be as cynical about this team so fast, but here we are.


'We have to find the right guy' has been this team's story since day 1!

Why make any announcements ever if nothing has changed?

So is Carver gone now because he isnt getting his DP?

I mean holy effin crap. This is a friggin sideshow.

Though I must give Paul and MLSE credit. They certainly do know when they have hit the jackpot. We (and I include myself as a paying season ticket holder) are all suckers and they know it very well.

[olegunnar]

Our chances haven't changed in the slightest. As Paul said, it has to be the right player. Who that is is another matter, but it just so happens that the right player is not available right now. If he were, you can bet that he would be signed. If it still looks like they can't sign their guy mid-season, they won't sign a DP mid-season. The lesser cap hit this year is attractive, but irrelevant; you would hope that a DP would play for more than one year, and he would still be a $400 000 number in 2010 (they could be hoping for a salary cap increase, but if not they would be in the same situation cap-wise a year from now if they were to sign a DP now or wait until the summer). It is all a matter of the right player, the only timing that is involved is when that player comes available.

I think you're missing the underlying issue

In Oct-Dec it was guarenteed we'd have a DP for the start of the season.
Recently we found out the first week of January was going to be the unveiling. Dobson, Knight, all sorts of people reported that.

Then we start to get nervous about the silence on the DeRo side of things and we get told it's a $$ thing...and at the same time we get told...forget about the Jan 5th announcement.

Sweet Own Goal and others have tracked this story down and have gotten so close to the truth, Bierne has to put out some damage control to protect his player and head off the "we didn't get Thiery Henry because DeRo is greedy" kind of talk.

So now we get the spin from the club...oh "we have to find the right guy"...pfffft. At least they're smart enough not to have Mo be the BS artist anymore.

The money was there for DeRo (at his current wage) and a DP. Now that it seems Dero wants to renegotiate and grab some allocation money, we don't have the money for a full season of DP. Coincidence?

I'm not out to get DeRo, I just like to be treated like an adult.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

Didnt carver swear to the death...if there was no DP coming in...he was out of here!?


have we improved going into our third season........sure we have by bringing in DERO....but will it be enough to challenge for the title?

We will be fighting for our lives to make the playoffs!

The only gurantee will come at seasons end...when TFC announce the ticket prices will be going up again..for year 4

Yes he did!! I HATE THE FACT WE ARE NOT GETTING A DP!!!!!


THIS SUCKS! THE WOOL IS BEING PULLED OVER OUR EYES AGAIN!!

[canadian_bhoy]

I am dissapointed - not because it was promissed or because I want to see a "star", but because a DP would strengthen our squad.

IMO - the club should be using all resources possible to improve the club and get us to the MLS Cup, including finding a DP and securing.

What sort of impact would a 15 goal scorer add to our club? It'd be huge.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

I am absolutely shocked!!!





I didnt think I would be as cynical about this team so fast, but here we are.


'We have to find the right guy' has been this team's story since day 1!

Why make any announcements ever if nothing has changed?

So is Carver gone now because he isnt getting his DP?

I mean holy effin crap. This is a friggin sideshow.

Though I must give Paul and MLSE credit. They certainly do know when they have hit the jackpot. We (and I include myself as a paying season ticket holder) are all suckers and they know it very well.

YOU ARE SOOOO RIGHT!

I am super pissed right now!!!

[ilikemusic]

I am dissapointed - not because it was promissed or because I want to see a "star", but because a DP would strengthen our squad.

I am disappointed because management and ownership talks to the fans (the people who have made this pathetic franchise a success) in nothing but platitudes, lip-service and double speak.

[TFCREDNWHITE]

aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!

i Just Want To Scream Bloody Murder!!!!!!!!

THIS SUCKS.

[olegunnar]

I am disappointed because management and ownership talks to the fans (the people who have made this pathetic franchise a success) in nothing but platitudes, lip-service and double speak.

+1

I agree 100%. That's my beef with all of this. Be straight forward. Treat us the paying customers like adults.

Not all of us are internet dweebs that can be herded and placated by as little as a complimentary post on a message board.

[flatpicker]

I think some of you are getting carried away with the negative comments here.
If we didn't have DeRo then yes, I would be upset at not getting a DP.
But we have made a solid acquisition and he is the one we should add the supportive pieces around.
To me, DeRo is a worthy substitute for a DP.