that's the thing though eric, dichio nut huggers can only result to insults when you criticise the guy cause there are no facts to back up what they think. the cold hard facts show that the guy is mediocore. yeah he scored a great goal last night, no denying that, but over the course of this season the guy is useless. as the facts show.
and no dichio does not usually take his goal scoring chances, he usually misses them. and last night i noticed he gave the ball away just as much as he won the ball so it all evened out.
Yes you're right, he's totally useless....useless to score this year, useless to win balls in the air and keep posession for the mids, useless to use his strength to physically beat down defenders throughout the game, useless to give every ounce he has all game, to move as slow as he may be all over the attacking side of the field....yeah, he's useless.
So what doesn't he have? Pace?! Big fucking deal! He has more football brains than 90% of the players in the fucking league.....THAT'S what I want on my team.
Cunny isn't playing, so by process of elimination from Carver tactics it must mean he's not training well. Smith and Velez have been noted to be fantastic in training, hence their involvement of the squad. That's how it should be, that's how it always should be. I don't give a fuck what it says on the back of your jersey, you don't impress the manager in training, you don't start.
except for the fact that he doesn't win that many balls in the air, and sometimes he actually doesn't even make an attempt at winning the ball in the air even though it's two yards away from him. i was obviously being over the top by saying he is useless.
but what you are saying is, you would rather have a guy who has scored 2 goals all year, but shows heart than (for eg.):
Chicago Fire G A
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Cuauhtemoc Blanco 3 2
John Thorrington 3 1
Chad Barrett 2 3
Columbus Crew G A
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Robbie Rogers 5 0
Alejandro Moreno 4 3
Chivas USA G A
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Sacha Kljestan 4 3
Colorado Rapids G A
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Omar Cummings 3 1
Christian Gomez 2 4
Terry Cooke 1 3
FC Dallas G A
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Kenny Cooper 5 1
i don't know, last time i checked the object of the game was to score goals, not have your main attacking player drop back into midfield and try to win balls and show heart
The bottom line is this for me, I think Dichio is great, he has great footy IQ, he has a great touch on the ball, he is great in the air, he finishes, he creates chances, and he does set up player. I love him as our striker. But he is lacking in pace, and this lack of pace does lessen his possible effectivenss. I cannot deny that. However, if we are going to get an upgrade for the position, we do not need a small quick striker, but rather someone with Dichio like attributes, but who is more mobile. [ I also think we need to give smith more chances at striker] As for Cunny I was a supporter, but he is not cut out for this system, and you need to understand that most of his goals came in a MLS in which he would regularly be able to run on goal almost unmarked. This is less likley to happen this days. He is the opposite of Dichio, his primary attribute is pace, and that alone will not cut it against good defending.
---Striker-------Dichio------
---------Guevara-----------
--Robert---------Ricketts---
---------Robinson-----------
QFT.
To really capitalize on our potent attacking mids . . . . .we need to go with a 2 striker set-up. . I was saying that at the match, and I stick by it.
WALK ON
Ps GAY-ARDO sucks dick.
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I totally disagree with what I bolded....IMO he wins many balls out there, and that is what he does best, keeps posession from long balls. Anyways, the stats you posted are good and all but I believe Dichio is not the offensive leader of our team so his points won't show that, Guevara is, Dichio is our centre forward (how many times do I have to say that?)...he is not on the field just to score goals like a pure striker. IMO he does so many other things to make his team successful AND scores on top of that!
I think all we are going to do here is agree to disagree, I won't see things your way and you won't mine, but at least you admitted labeling him "useless" was over the top, and I've also said all along our next move should be a DP striker, but DD is what we have now, and he has earned his striped with TFC, no question its undisputable IMO. What upsets me in all this talk is people who say Cunningham should be starting.....that's just crazy talk.
I hear that a lot around here, but realistically, don't you think that's too much to ask for......your description is basically "the total package"...I think we have more than enough pace in the midfield now (Guevara and Ricketts....Robert while skilled is a lazy boy, but that's another topic) to make up for lack thereof at forward...like I said before the mid who joins the rush will negate our lack of pace from Dichio, and complement him.
How come you left out the top scorer in the league? Oh right, he's a dick.
See, there's more to it than goals. Danny Dichio is the perfect player for a team as young as TFC - he's a character player, a leader. Yes, I'd rather have DD than any selfish diva - of which there are plenty to chose from.
i agree. cunningham is not very good. but i would be interested to see how him and dichio played together as i think they would compliment each other.
while we are grinding out an unbeaten streak it is hard to be too critical but there are some things to keep in mind. the football we are playing is not easy on the eye (unless you have bhoybobby's eyesight), we don't score enough goals, and some of the draws could have been turned into victories had we a couple players who were more adept at finding the back of the net, and that is where i find fault with dichio. and the whole striker/centre forward argument is pedantic. he is leading our attack, therefore he should be scoring.
the other thing is we are playing at home where we obviously have a huge advantage, yet at home we can only squeak out narrow victories or draws. it will be interesting to see how the team does when they have a solid road trip.
oh and one thing i will say about me is that i don't always mean things to sound as harsh as they are. so although i say dichio is useless i don't mean maple leafs trying to win the stanley cup useless i mean he's ok for now, but for the team to really impress and start punishing teams we need better.
Last edited by Milton_Arab; 05-22-2008 at 10:16 AM.
i won't argue with you there. in simple terms this is my issue:
dichio is our main attacker yet he has scored 2 in 8. fine he does all these other things (and even then he doesn't do them as well as some people on here seem to think) but if he is doing all these other things then who is going to be scoring the goals?? the team is only scoring slightly over a goal a game. if we want to win the cup or be a top team over the course of a season that needs to be increased ASAP
Point taken.
Now, I don't want to use this an excuse, but the truth is, this is still an expansion team. I don't know much about soccer, but all successful expansion teams in hockey have built from the defense out. The ones that tried to go with scoring too soon always faded by the end of the season or if they squeaked into the playoffs got blown out when the real grinding started.
This team is building and establishing its character. So far, I really like what I see. It's got a way to go, but its really on the right track. One thing that proves this team is building with character is the fact it can bring in guys like Guevara and Robert with their reputations and get them on board. I'm sure having someone like Danny Dichio helps with that a lot, as does having John Carver and, say what you will about him, players respect Mo.
Yes, when this team goes on the road this year it's going to lose some games, but its building a great foundation.