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    Quote Originally Posted by OneLoveOneEric View Post
    Dressing room cancer.
    And keep him away from the golf clubs
    Might as well give him a set if he's coming here, cause he sure ain't playing on any turf.

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    I sincerely hope we see a change at CB next season. When we started off this season it looked pretty promising because our backline was doing well without having much chemistry but it has only gone down hill as the season progressed. Perhaps we should trade one of our CBs and a first round pick for a proven defender (aka not James, not ragging on him, it might just be more time that he needs) who can consistently lead the defense (aka not Marshall or Velez) and wants to be here (aka not Tebily). Serioux's name seems to pop up in this thread, is he a candidate? I'm definitely up for another Canadian starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 125_TFC View Post
    Players like Guevara and Ricketts will improve exponentially if they are surrounded by numerous quality players. How many times has Guevara had absolutely no one to set up after creating space on the ball? How many times has a Ricketts cross been wasted by a fellow player in the box? If both are going to have a significant impact on this team, then there needs to be an actualy team around them. This has not been the case throughout this season.

    Cutting either player would be a mistake of epic proportions.
    Guevara is our most talented player but he hogs the ball, coughs it up frequently and looks at thought there IS an I in team. He also does not have a real two-way workrate. His lack of heart is indicative of the lack of fight the team has generally. Ditto with Ruiz, Velez, James and possibly a few others.

    Ricketts on the bench? Are ye mad lads? He's the only player who shows consistent effort on the team and the odd bad game does not equate to getting rid of one of your most skilled players.

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    As for the rest, there's a decided surplus of technique over football thinking here. We have terrible off the ball movement, which is hard to teach to players near the end of their career.

    I think we have to accept that the reason Robbo and Brennan were perennial backups in England is that htey make poor decisions. So does Marshall, Velez, Jarrod Smith, and Barrett.

    I think our starting lineup should look something like this (and Sibiso Zuma, assumign his legs aren't gone, would be a really good striker we could get for less than DP money, as would Scott McGleish).

    -----------NEW GK(sutton backup-------------
    ---Wynne---NEW CB ----- New CB ------ New RB (Brennan on bench)
    ---Ricketts ---------NEW CM ---- NEW CM ------Jo Smith
    -------------------Dichio/Barrett ---- new striker -----------------

    It's not just heart. These are the players we have who, for the most part, make the right choice and show good football intelligence. Couldn't disagree more on Jo Smith, he doesn't need more time and he holds onto the ball just about right, given that he's rarely stripped of it and ends up near the byline most of the time.\

    If we can afford his salary and he'll stay for a bench role, we should keep Robbo to shutdown games late. He's too one way and defensive to be a starter but would be great as fresh legs late to close down tight games. Ditto with Barrett and BRennan, both better as bench options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    -----------NEW GK(sutton backup-------------
    ---Wynne---NEW CB ----- New CB ------ New RB (Brennan on bench)
    ---Ricketts ---------NEW CM ---- Guevara ------Jo Smith
    -------------------New Striker ---- new striker -----------------
    I made a couple of changes, but everything else i agree with..

    Pretty much we need a whole new team!! LOL

    The problem that we're gonna run into is the Salary Cap!! We are gonna run outta of money fast! and we're gonna be stuck with the same shit players again...WHY? because you get what you pay for!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFCREDNWHITE View Post
    I made a couple of changes, but everything else i agree with..

    Pretty much we need a whole new team!! LOL

    The problem that we're gonna run into is the Salary Cap!! We are gonna run outta of money fast! and we're gonna be stuck with the same shit players again...WHY? because you get what you pay for!!
    And Canadian player quotas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooster_TFC View Post
    And Canadian player quotas.
    I was just gonna comment on that. I was thinking, we will always be at a disadvantage compared to other MLS teams (even the expansion teams will probably do better than us), due to the number of Canadians we need to keep on our team (regardless of talent).

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    First XI:

    -------------------Sutton (157.5K)-------------------------

    Wynne(150K)--------CB------------CB---------Brennan(183.3K)

    ---------------------Robbo(330K)----------------------------

    Ricketts(212.5K)-----------------------------------------LM

    ----------------------Guevara (185.8K)----------------------

    ---------------RF-----------------Dichio(165.6K)-------------

    Coach GT, nice post.

    I find it hard to believe that we are talking about a salary cap issue and nobody has mentioned our 330k a year defensive mid.

    Am I the only that thinks that the money could be better spent, and the position played by someone else?

    How does it make sense to make a guy the 14th highest paid player in the league at that position?

    Anyways. I'd like to see a little more of Roselund this year to see if he could be an everyday player next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v00d00daddy View Post
    First XI:

    -------------------Sutton (157.5K)-------------------------

    Wynne(150K)--------CB------------CB---------Brennan(183.3K)

    ---------------------Robbo(330K)----------------------------

    Ricketts(212.5K)-----------------------------------------LM

    ----------------------Guevara (185.8K)----------------------

    ---------------RF-----------------Dichio(165.6K)-------------

    Coach GT, nice post.

    I find it hard to believe that we are talking about a salary cap issue and nobody has mentioned our 330k a year defensive mid.

    Am I the only that thinks that the money could be better spent, and the position played by someone else?

    How does it make sense to make a guy the 14th highest paid player in the league at that position?

    Anyways. I'd like to see a little more of Roselund this year to see if he could be an everyday player next year.
    Hah! I love how everyone (myself included) skips ahead....I just finished advocating for an entirely new midfield, including dropping Robbo, not because he's not a good DM but because this really does seem to be a two-way league. Defensive "specialists" pretty much have to be in the back line.

    Again, it's very hard to come up with a "winning" idea for a lineup give that we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. I refuse to believe there aren't other issues with the level of these performances.

    Maybe the turf issue with respect to training is much more serious than let on. Maybe these guys have dead legs by the end of every game from running on a cushion all week, which is why we keep giving up last minute goals and look entirely listless and never at full speed.

    It could well be that that's why they want a GRASS practice facility, not a grass BMO. They keep the advantage over other teams of turf, but can point out that it won't have a significant physiological effect on the players, because they'll divide practise time with a more forgiving surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Again, it's very hard to come up with a "winning" idea for a lineup give that we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. I refuse to believe there aren't other issues with the level of these performances.
    Yes, I think you're right, there are other issues. There are also a few draft picks coming that might be interesting, guys like O'Brian White if we can get him.

    Someone also said a while ago that looking at the most successful teams in the MLS the key is in the American players. I guess for TFC that also means Canadian players.

    So, if someone could put together one of these line-ups that includes back-ups like Ibby and Rosenlund, I think we might start to see a very North American team developing.

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    If we get a DP in as a striker, it needs to be someone with a predatory finish. I really don't care about play-making etc, what we need is someone who will stick the ball in the back of the net from anywhere in or around the 18 yard box. In this league, that kind of player can make a season for you, because the defences really aren't that great.

    As for the US/international spots, if Montreal, Vancouver and Ottawa do all join MLS, then surely the league will be forced to say that american and canadian players all count as "domestic", and that both US and Canadian clubs are then bound by the same set of rules for international players. If they continue this ludicrous distinction with three or more Canadian clubs in the league, then the canadian clubs will fold because the canadian player pool is so thin for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Hah! I love how everyone (myself included) skips ahead....I just finished advocating for an entirely new midfield, including dropping Robbo, not because he's not a good DM but because this really does seem to be a two-way league. Defensive "specialists" pretty much have to be in the back line.

    Again, it's very hard to come up with a "winning" idea for a lineup give that we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. I refuse to believe there aren't other issues with the level of these performances.

    Maybe the turf issue with respect to training is much more serious than let on. Maybe these guys have dead legs by the end of every game from running on a cushion all week, which is why we keep giving up last minute goals and look entirely listless and never at full speed.

    It could well be that that's why they want a GRASS practice facility, not a grass BMO. They keep the advantage over other teams of turf, but can point out that it won't have a significant physiological effect on the players, because they'll divide practise time with a more forgiving surface.
    I did read your post. I just missed the Robbo part. My bad. Even still. You're the only 1 out of many posters who mentioned Robbo. On top of that you spoke more about how one dimensional he is more than his salary.

    I would love to keep Robbo at defensive mid. Maybe even make him a centre back. I just don't think he should be paid more than 100-120 grand for what he does.

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    why does everyone insist on keeping Velez in their lineups??

    What does everyone see in him that I don't??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbronies View Post
    why does everyone insist on keeping Velez in their lineups??

    What does everyone see in him that I don't??
    He's had his moments, but the problem is he's not consistent, and at CB that's a vital skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v00d00daddy View Post
    I did read your post. I just missed the Robbo part. My bad. Even still. You're the only 1 out of many posters who mentioned Robbo. On top of that you spoke more about how one dimensional he is more than his salary.

    I would love to keep Robbo at defensive mid. Maybe even make him a centre back. I just don't think he should be paid more than 100-120 grand for what he does.
    I don't think any player can simply be a d.mid in this league. Look at the players in the middle who do well: Joseph, Nagamura, Thorrington, all guys who can play both ways and have some speed.

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    I realy think that it all starts with the right coaching staff and manager. We need to establish a playing style and system and stick to it. Develop players that can play in that system and bring in players that can fit into that system. We need to start over, I do not care if we grow slowly we just need to build it right. Right now we are not building it right. I want this club to be the Club in CONCAF. We are not on the way toward that.

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    I just dont get all this love for Ricketts. Come on people. the guy has very little ability. He had one good game for TFC. he scored 2 goals.

    the guy is terrible at corners.

    He gives it his best , but if we want to win he is just not good enough.

    Some of you guys are naming 90% of the team to be back next year. Are you kidding me.

    We are the worse team in the league again.

    Our best player last year left us. (OBRIEN) and we were never really able to replace him.(robert.)


    we need a bunch of new players and SOME FREAKIN GRASS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco2K View Post
    the guy is terrible at corners.
    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco2K View Post
    Some of you guys are naming 90% of the team to be back next year. Are you kidding me.
    Keeping a foundation and building chemistry are crucial to having a successful team, having a revolving door has done nothing so far these two years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco2K View Post
    We are the worse team in the league again
    Seasons not over!

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    toronto fc need a new cocah

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    ze return of tim90

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco2K View Post
    I just dont get all this love for Ricketts. Come on people. the guy has very little ability. He had one good game for TFC. he scored 2 goals.

    the guy is terrible at corners.
    Ricketts is a "set-up man," not a goal-scorer.

    His corners are weak, but his passing is decent. Too bad we don't have anyone good enough to make something of them.

    What really stands out is his exceptional dribbling ability. It's hard for defenders to dispossess him of the ball.
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    I swear your young and you seem to have more footy sense than some of the older guys on this board lol

    Reading what you just wrote made me think of Canada v Hondorus (sp)

    I have watched Amado many times this season for TFC and a lot of the players do not read what he does, they are a step behind and he is a page ahead, i have watched Ro many times this season and he has put through passes or loads of crosses in and players are not making the right runs etc

    Then a bunch of us went to go watch Julian and Canada play and i saw what Amado really does with players they have the right understanding and it seemed like it was nothing special and really he controlled the pace and what his team were doing.

    My friends left there saying "i used to think Guevara was crap but he's class" lol


    Quote Originally Posted by 125_TFC View Post
    Players like Guevara and Ricketts will improve exponentially if they are surrounded by numerous quality players. How many times has Guevara had absolutely no one to set up after creating space on the ball? How many times has a Ricketts cross been wasted by a fellow player in the box? If both are going to have a significant impact on this team, then there needs to be an actualy team around them. This has not been the case throughout this season.

    Cutting either player would be a mistake of epic proportions.

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    Bella would tear this league up BUT he would have to play to do that and the way he has been injured he might play less than DD this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by ben_vw View Post
    What would you guys think of Craig Bellamy for our DP striker next season? He was linked to us last off-season I believe.

    Pros:

    - only 29
    - has worked with Carver before
    - at the same level as Juan Pablo Angel

    I won't list cons, I'm trying to be positive here. It's hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bruva View Post
    I swear your young and you seem to have more footy sense than some of the older guys on this board lol

    Reading what you just wrote made me think of Canada v Hondorus (sp)

    I have watched Amado many times this season for TFC and a lot of the players do not read what he does, they are a step behind and he is a page ahead, i have watched Ro many times this season and he has put through passes or loads of crosses in and players are not making the right runs etc

    Then a bunch of us went to go watch Julian and Canada play and i saw what Amado really does with players they have the right understanding and it seemed like it was nothing special and really he controlled the pace and what his team were doing.

    My friends left there saying "i used to think Guevara was crap but he's class" lol
    Yup perfect example, the reason Guevara may seem like he is hogging the ball is because he has to. You can see the quality he has, he wants to set up other players; but if there's no one to set up, what's he supposed to do? When he played for Honduras against Canada, as you said, you saw what he could do.

    And Ricketts, well people know how I feel about him. He's one of, if not our best player, and he is one of the most passionate as well. He would be a major loss. MAJOR.

    And don't underestimate the youth of today my friend!
    We are a powerful group haha


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    Tim90
    He is back!!!! nice to have around bro.

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    lol yeah the youth in this country are getting better i must admit lol

    I honestly take some of the posts i read with a grain of salt coz in all honesty there are quite a few TFC fans that are just fans for the hype and don't really know what they are talking about in regards to Footy sense and i don't just mean those are the people that say Ro is crap or needs to go etc lol coz everyone can have their opinion and that is not affecting me or Ro but some some of the things i read lol

    Quote Originally Posted by 125_TFC View Post
    Yup perfect example, the reason Guevara may seem like he is hogging the ball is because he has to. You can see the quality he has, he wants to set up other players; but if there's no one to set up, what's he supposed to do? When he played for Honduras against Canada, as you said, you saw what he could do.

    And Ricketts, well people know how I feel about him. He's one of, if not our best player, and he is one of the most passionate as well. He would be a major loss. MAJOR.

    And don't underestimate the youth of today my friend!
    We are a powerful group haha

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    I notice in the post-game interview video up on TFC TV that Carver says the team is exposed through the middle every time Guevara plays there. That pretty much says we're going back to the 4-5-1 or 443, to me.

 

 

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