Ticket price increase? Bring it on!

[giambac]

Once again, I'd really like to hear MLSE's justification for next season's price increase.

demand and supply.

If you don't pay for it they wouldn't rasie the prices.

[giambac]

Ya. Mo's got something coming down the pipe. Looking at a few players.

Yes he is just waiting for the English league to end......

[MFG1]

Statistically the team is marginally better now than it was last year, but hardly a justification for raising prices!

Is the salary cap increasing significantly for next year?
Is the size of the roster expanding at all for next year?
Are they going to pay the development players a "living" wage?
Are they footing the bill for grass at BMO?
Are we footing the bill to expand the seating at BMO - an upper tier?
Is the club purchasing a training centre?
Is the club hiring scouts?
Is the club expanding the Academy program?
Playoff expenses?
Do we have additional games/competitions for next season?
Is it to justify bonuses; and if so, who earned a bonus?
Forget the DP and better player acquisitions, we've heard MoJo chirping about this last year and this year!

Add in insult to injury with the fact that our best players are frequently on NT duty, so TFC is fielding an inferior product. The league's best players are also frequently on NT duty, so I'm paying top $ now to watch average players and now I'm expected to pay more for the same product next year.

Yeah,
I think I want to know why MLSE expects us to pay more for so little in return

THATS GOLD JERRY! GOLD!


Has it sunk into anyone yet that the next new player we will see here is probably after game 2 or 3 of next year because Mo spent so much time over this summer looking for players all over the world that he totally forgot to sign someone?? the first two years he did this so brace your self from the anxiety cuz I think were in for some more bullshit months down the road and truly wait again for the english league to finish....


Hey are there any good players for Hull or Stoke city?????

[billygrieveuk]

Seems like the biggest part of Toronto FC is costing the team nothing, so they're laughing at us. Like someone mentioned, lets give the casual fans "Nothing to see here, move along" for the rest of the season and force MLSE's hand to improve the product...

i think we should stop thinking of ourselves as "the best fans in the league/ world", and stop thinking people are paying to come see the fans chant!

People come out to see the game, not the fans!
we just add something to it......ITS NOT ABOUT US!

[billygrieveuk]

this is a second year team in a league which still plans its season around baseball and football games! If the league concentrated on getting SSS for all teams, and made that manditory for any new ones joining the league, we'd be better off in qualitfying weekends.... This "nothing to see here" attitude happens every game in cities like ny.

[professor]

fwiw,
I picked out a few "facts" from the current CBA
this just provides a little bit of clarity with regard to expenses incurred by MLSE as the current CBA does include 2009. nickels & dimes really

The current CBA expires midnight, January 31, 2010.

Currently, the min salary for a senior roster player will be $33,000; in 2009, $34,000
Currently, the monthly wage for a low-level developmental player is $1,075; in 2009, $1,175
Currently, the monthly wage for a high-level developmental player is $1,475; in 2009, $1,575
Currently, MLS's 2008 401K (RRSP) contributions are 2.75% of the player's salary; 3.0% in 2009
Currently, MLS players receive a daily per diem for food on road trips of $47 (breaky, lunch & dinner); in 2009, $50
Currently, an MLS player receives 4 complimentary game tickets for each home match, 2 for an away matche
MLS players are guaranteed six weeks' vacation per year during the offseason
Players earning less than 60K receive an automatic 5% pay raise each year
Medical insurance includes a $250 deductible for individuals, $500 for families; dental has no deductible
Each player receives a $75,000 life insurance policy, 50,000 for spouses and 10,000 per child
Long-term disability is 60 percent of a player's salary

MLS teams are limited to 48 matches in a calendar year (major tournaments are exempt).
Includes league, playoffs, friendlies, SuperLiga

[professor]

just adding to previous info

MLS, TFC and LICO

Low Income Cut-Offs (LICO) - The LICO calculates the average cost of basic necessities (including housing, food, and clothing) for different sized households in different sized communities. The measure then adds an additional 20% to determine the low income cut-off for each family/household size. The additional 20% is meant to cover all expenses beyond food, shelter and clothing. This includes such things as heat, hydro, telephone, laundry, toiletries, cleaning supplies, school related costs, medications, transportation, and other unexpected costs.

LICO, before tax, 2007 figures
Community size up to 499,999, 1 person = $18,659
Community Size over 500,000, 1 person = $21,666

2008 figures not yet published

http://www.statcan.ca/bsolc/english/...5F0002M2004002

So from a TFC perspective, MLSE remunerates 7 players with an
annual wage below the "poverty line" or LICO

$12,900
Attakora
Elkinson
Gala
Gaudet
Melo

$17,700
Hemming
Rosenlund

Must be a rewarding feeling knowing that your up and coming
prospects qualify for assistance at the local food bank to insure
they are able to access minimum levels of nutritional foods to maintain
game fitness.

[koryo]

King Dave and I were having a chat about this yesterday. It basically nets out as follows:

THE CURRENT PRODUCT ON THE FIELD DOES NOT JUSTIFY CURRENT TICKET PRICES.

We're not paying shit prices to see this team, so why are we handed shit to watch?

mlsintoronto, you listening?