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    Default Toronto's newest soccer fields - REAL GRASS for BMO imminent?

    Well. . the Cherry beach fields are not being used. . and they have a beautiful surface, ONE of the fields could be designated as a training facility for TFC. . while the rest for public use. maybe they would re-coup some of their (tax payers) losses.

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    Toronto's newest soccer fields -- locked up and unused since last year -- will cost $8.5 million if they finally open next month.

    For those keeping score, that's not just a year late, but also about $3 million over budget.

    Waterfront Toronto -- funded by taxpayers' dollars from all three levels of government -- is on the hook for the extra cost, but stressed the fields, built on one of the most contaminated sections of the Portlands, will be worth it.

    The city is urging sports groups to pay $36 an hour for the "premiere" pitches, dubbed the Cherry Beach Sports Fields, starting Sept. 22. Yesterday, construction crews were still at the site completing the parking lot.

    Waterfront communications director Michelle Noble said the "desperately needed" fields were ready last fall, shortly after the city hosted the junior World Cup. The soccer pitches were suppose to be used for that event.

    Since its completion, the well-manicured fields on the corner of Unwin Ave. and Regatta Rd. have sat behind construction fence closed to the public or any soccer players.

    City parks manager Leslie Coates said Toronto Public Health warned the city not to open the field because of concerns about badly contaminated soil.

    The spot is one of the worst in the former industrial lands on the edge of Lake Ontario. Rather than dig out the soil and put in clean fill, officials opted to remediate the land.

    "The biggest challenge with remediation is you don't know what you will find," Noble said. "We knew the area was contaminated because most of the Portlands are contaminated, but it was just finding out the extent and determining what needed to be done."

    City bureaucrats had originally earmarked $5.5 million for the sports field complex, but the budget initially jumped to $6.5 million to deal with polluted land in the field area.

    The cost went up another $2 million -- to $8.5 million -- to address contamination problems in the area designated for a parking lot.

    Plans initially called for crews to simply put down asphhalt on the parking lot. However, it turned out the land was so badly polluted with volatile organic compounds, it required more extensive remediation work.

    But Noble said the fields are almost ready to open to the public. "They're elite sports fields; they are absolutely stunning, I think the people that play on them will love them," Noble said.

    Environment ministry officials signed off on the fields in late May.

    "Our role really in this project was to review and approve the risk assessment," local ministry spokesman Charlotte Wilkinson said.

    "At that time, we concluded the human health risk portion and the ecological risk assessment had been conducted in accordance with the appropriate legislation."

    Rob Davies, director of operations for Toronto Central Sport and Social Club, said it's been frustrating to see the fields unused. "It's been almost a full year now they've been sitting there available and not one ball has been kicked on it," Davies said.

    He said his organization hopes to get some time on the field before it is closed on Nov. 30 for the winter. "It's not a very big window of time," Davies said.
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    maybe the contamination will create some mutant soccer players that can play for Toronto with super-human abilities!

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    The title of this thread is so misleading...

    I'd rather see them just go through with getting the grass pitch at BMO and absorbing the cost themselves of constructing a new facility for public use.

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    LOL as long as they can still make babies after playing on it

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    It sounds like the city want to see their investment used by the kids and porbably not the pros.

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    No mention in the article of TFC's involvement. How exactly does it cost 8.5 million dollars to lay down two soccer pitches?
    Did the USA , of all countries, just fix soccer? - C. Ronaldo, May 27th commenting on the FBI-led investigations into fraud and corruption throughout FIFA.

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    Wow what a great selling pitch to new players...we dont have grass but we practice on natural grass on contaminated soil...I dont think so...

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    We could change our logo to a T over the biohazard symbol... how timeless is that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    No mention in the article of TFC's involvement. How exactly does it cost 8.5 million dollars to lay down two soccer pitches?
    Someone's got to fleece the city ... It's a publicly funded contract.

    Though ... It is QUITE expensive to dig contaminated soil out and test to make sure it's all gone.

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    Totally misleading.
    Christ the city doesnt know their asses from a hole in the wall.
    Thats miserable

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    When the Argo's were still at the Ex, they used to practice on the grass of the ball diamond near the dufferin gate rather than pound away on the rock-like surface at Exhibition Stadium.

    I wonder if TFC have considered that site for training? It's grass and only a short walk from their dressing rooms and other training facilities.

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    How about this: TFC BUILD their own facility rather than using more public facilities?

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    ^ Bingo!

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    Wow, just a great example of government waste. And politicians wonder why soccer fans think grass at BMO shouldn't be cost prohibitive.

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    there's more than just soccer fields there.. if anyone remembers the plan a while back, there should be a whole boatload of facilities there

    this was not a waste a public funds.. rather a bit of naivety on the part of the planners for assuming that the corporations didn't do what they do best.. allow environmental hazards to make huge profits

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    I don't get it.

    What's the big fuss about? Would you rather be playing soccer on land polluted by toxic chemicals and other contaminants?

    How exactly is this a waste of taxpayers money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL-MO View Post
    How about this: TFC BUILD their own facility rather than using more public facilities?
    WHAT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wzhxvy View Post
    Wow what a great selling pitch to new players...we dont have grass but we practice on natural grass on contaminated soil...I dont think so...
    The Cherry Beach fields are not natural grass. They're artificial turf, one more reason why the fields were so expensive.

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    Artificial turf,no wonder it was so expansive,but why bather with contamination tests,when is under the turf anyway,it can't come out.Same with parking lot put the damn asphalt and that's it.
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    If its only 2 pitches + whatever I don't know if the city will constitute that as "problem solved" and free up BMO from city use. I dare to hope but seems unlikely.

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    Why dont they just use the hershey centre?

    It has a shit load of pitches, a full size indoor (if the weather sucks / or training), a gym and anything else they need.

    I dont see why they are "looking". They should have been using this since day one.


    Kind of like the Argos (puke) practice at UTM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    Why dont they just use the hershey centre?

    It has a shit load of pitches, a full size indoor (if the weather sucks / or training), a gym and anything else they need.

    I dont see why they are "looking". They should have been using this since day one.


    Kind of like the Argos (puke) practice at UTM.




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    Maybe because Hershey Centre is NOT in Toronto !!!
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    New pitches eh? $36/hour?

    I am so there! It's so hard getting to play on a decent pitch in Toronto without having to apply for a loan. Especially in winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcleaner View Post
    WHAT?!
    What is it that your socialist agenda doesn't understand?

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    so what if its not in Toronto


    a) its only for practice
    b) its only 20 minutes away with easy off highway access
    c) other teams play outside their labeled cities, why cant TFC practice outside of it. Hell they are practicing in Thornburry, should we not allow that?


    Go have a look at that sports complex, its something to behold.
    I was actually on that project when building it (PCL), and that thing was built to professional standards.

    Heck, PCL also built BMO field, and those standards were shit. I'm not kidding, MLSE made us cut back on anything and everything, hence the shitty elevators, plastic barriers behind the box entrances, and lack of bathrooms.

    And in case anyones wondering, PCL already has the blueprints for quoting MLSE and Toronto for the expansion project. They've had it already drawn up since last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    so what if its not in Toronto


    And in case anyones wondering, PCL already has the blueprints for quoting MLSE and Toronto for the expansion project. They've had it already drawn up since last year.
    Thank you. And get'er'dun.

    They chose fewer bathrooms?

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    minimum code requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Ronaldo View Post
    so what if its not in Toronto


    a) its only for practice
    b) its only 20 minutes away with easy off highway access
    c) other teams play outside their labeled cities, why cant TFC practice outside of it. Hell they are practicing in Thornburry, should we not allow that?


    Go have a look at that sports complex, its something to behold.
    I was actually on that project when building it (PCL), and that thing was built to professional standards.

    Heck, PCL also built BMO field, and those standards were shit. I'm not kidding, MLSE made us cut back on anything and everything, hence the shitty elevators, plastic barriers behind the box entrances, and lack of bathrooms.

    And in case anyones wondering, PCL already has the blueprints for quoting MLSE and Toronto for the expansion project. They've had it already drawn up since last year.
    Maybe City of Mississauga has something against,since they invested money for their community use,and TFC should move in as it was made for them.If BMO gets the grass training facility HAS to be in the City of Toronto,so that Toronto community can use it ,as they are using BMO field,that why I wrote Hershey Centre can't be solution for TFC training facility with bubble during a winter time.It has to be in TO.

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    They can go practice on those fields Sunday afternoon and then go to the Promise Cherry Beach parties on the beach Sunday evening.

    Happy times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    What is it that your socialist agenda doesn't understand?
    Err.. so Boban, you've pretty much proved to everyone that you don't actually know what the term socialist means. I don't want to spill the beans, but you really don't know much about such political things, do you?

    I mean, from what I'm reading, you're pretty much getting the definitions completely mixed up - considering it's a fiscally conservative position to oppose public funds being given to a corporation.

    Please explain. No hold on a minute, I wanna get some popcorn, this will be good.


    Okay, go on...
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