Record:
Year GP W L T PTS GF GA +/-
2008 21 7 9 5 26 22 27 -5
2007 30 6 17 7 25 25 49 -24
Roster:
http://web.mlsnet.com/players/roster.jsp?club=t280
Mo:
Yes
No
Are You Happy With Mo Johnston's Performance?
Record:
Year GP W L T PTS GF GA +/-
2008 21 7 9 5 26 22 27 -5
2007 30 6 17 7 25 25 49 -24
Roster:
http://web.mlsnet.com/players/roster.jsp?club=t280
Mo:
yip, we're a better team now thats for sure.
yep, couple things he could have done better but i am happy, teams only getting better, its a slow process but you cant just throw a team together, that just doesnt happen
Maybe. Kinda. Sorta.
Anyone who isn't happy with what he's done, doesn't understand the nature of this league & how hard it is to do anything at all.
Hes brought in players that have helped us a lot, and he has got us a group of young players who will develop in the future. For what he has to work with i think he's done all he could.
I definitely think so. We're still piecing the puzzle but once its finished, we will have a very successful team. You HAVE to take the turf issue into consideration as well. Mo has done quite a bit with his hands tied on many fronts.
I would say yes, despite my other critical comments. YOY, it has been a significant improvement. I just wish they did less talking and blowing smoke vs. actually doing...but its entertaining and keeps us talking :-)
Given that he has had to manipulate the cap the domestic,international slots, Chicago's whining about McBride and the turf at BMO I think he's done reasonably well. Still more work to be done - you're not finished MO!
No. His dismissal from the Red Bulls was not an accident. This guy is inconsistent and his constant bull shit about his plans rankles me. I remember how he lauded players like Andy Welsh, Samuel, and how Robert would burn up the league, and how Edu would stick around for a couple of years, meanwhile he had no clue, and it is clear, the guy in San Jose is much better....bet they surpass TFC this season....what will the MO lovers say about that?
Originally Posted by Smenge
No chance Yallop is an Idiot...end of....Mo is on the right track here in TO.
everyone has to accept that it is a slow process to develop a top side, with how tight this league is, especially in the east, we are doing alright and Mo is working to make us better and better...we have some promising youngsters and alot of quality on our first team, TFC is destined for greatness
I can't believe 23 people voted yes.
So maybe its not something wrong with the 23, but the other 3.
I voted yes
It's really all a question of ambition and whether or not you believe Mo Johnston has the track record in this league and talent to take us where we want to be. I don't believe so.
Moderator
My sentiments exactly, haha.
If San Jose turns things around, it will be because of Huckerby's arrival. The same guy we "discovered" first, and who Mo tried to sign, but he refused because of the turf.
You can't hold that against Mo.
- Scott
“Heroism breaks its heart, and idealism its back, on the intransigence of the credulous and the mediocre, manipulated by the cynical and the corrupt.” ~Christopher Hitchens
Just to be devils advocate ...
Chicago did back in '98.. won the whole fucking thing in first year.
(Yes I know thats an anomaly, but one can't say it can't be done)
Overall, considering MoJo's handicap otherwise known as fieldturf, he has done an admirable job assembling TFC's current roster. I think TFC is now a legitimate threat to make the playoffs this season and our future looks brighter than ever...
I think it depends on what you think about the league. I don't know how many guys with a track record in this league would have been willing to come to an expansion team in Canada.
Mo would like to be here long enough to build an organization, I think that's clear. He knew when he took the job it couldn't be done in a couple of years, especially with owners who are well aware of the previous failure of soccer here (and how few people were going to Lynx games) and the tenuous nature of the league itself so they'll only invest incrementally.
In a few years when the salary cap is raised and the team has a little history, then it'll be easier to judge the performance of the management.
I think most of what we talk about here as the problems with the management are the result of the league's wonky rules and set-up and the fact that the league isn;t well-established enough. Face it, plenty of people on this board knew an awful lot about European leagues before TFC existed, but nothing about the MLS (exceptions, of course). Well, the rest of the world - players and agents - didn;t suddenly become believers in the league because Toronto got a team.
We (they) have beaten last year's point total with 9 games to go.
Mo is constantly working the phones (he was talking about players in the Montreal hotel lobby), bringing guys in for tours and does a lot of scouting himself.
It's a second year team that had a great run earlier this year. Hopefully, it will continue to get better next season.
Sure, it can be done when the whole league is two years old. But really, there's a big difference between then and now.
HAHA
was thinking about mentioning it only because its prob the only time in history its every happened
i wish we could take this team and play in 1998. we'd win the league too
that's the era when Cunny was awesome.
I agree that TFC is better since Mo joined us lol...
yes... it's very hard to do anything at all lol...
He's great.
MLS has stupid rules that nobody coming from the outside can even fathom.
We have a limited budget.
Limited roster spots.
Can we stop these dumb threads?
I met some Scottish Celtic supporters in New York last week at the game (from Camebridge, Ontario).
The older gal is from the same town as Moe and said he wasn't well liked back home. Sex, drugs and rock'n roll kinda of stuff.
One of the dudes said Moe tried to pick-up his wife right in front of him at a bar in Hamilton.
I agree this stuff has nothing to do with being a good football manager/coach, but something to think about (ie; integrity).
KD.
It's probably not a good idea to question integrity based on hearsay - there's some irony in there somewhere.
When I first started reading this board and following TFC I'd never heard of Mo and didn't know anything about the whole Celtic-Rangers thing. I've since learned, but I still don't get it. I would have thought ending the whole "no catholics" thing would have been a good thing - kind of like Jackie Robinson ending baseball's whites-only era. The only people who hated Robinson were bigots. I'm sure the Scotland thing is different and I don't get it. I'm still leaning (I did a lot of research on the Robinson thing and wrote a radio drama about it that aired on CBC in 1996 - the 50th anniversary of his debut with the Montreal Royals).
But I've heard the same stuff from people I've met about what a teenaged, or early twenties, professional athlete Mo did in the way of partying. I wonder if there are any pro athletes who didn't party when they were younger?
For some people it's just personal in a way I don't understand, but this board really shouldn't get into it on any kind of personal level. It's all rumour and inuendo and there's a lot of history that really has nothing to do with what's going on now in Toronto.
/end rant.
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