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    Default Match Day 8 - TFC @ Charlotte Sat April 13 7:38pm - It Really Seems Like My Head

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    I don't know what to expect anymore. Last game was the first game I felt like it last season again and wanted to turn the TV off before it was done.

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    Well... with our roster the way it is, this goes two ways. We fight like dogs, don't fuck up and squeak a narrow win or draw (like the first time we played them) or... we fight like dogs, but make lots of mistakes, get beat on the counter three times and wonder if the slide will continue.

    We don't have the ability for much in between.

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    Without both Insigne and Richie we're pretty toothless going forward, and our defence seems to have regressed. And it's on the road.

    Smells like another loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Still can't seem to keep people healthy, eh.

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    Wait, Spicer had a broken toe when he was drafted...is this the same injury?

    Like, did we actually have a guy come back to quickly from a broken toe?!?!


    Edit - says its a toe sprain - same toe
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    FWIW

    Herdman presser today

    Really interesting discussion of

    a) will have to change style from being high intensity when goes to 2 games a week

    b) college Spicer was at had no real recovery process

    https://www.torontofc.ca/video/train...-april-11-2024
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Total side note but has anyone kept track of tfc2 lately? Anyone we should keep our eye out for?

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    Have been doing these type of short signings for the past what three shitty seasons from TFC2 who yes I know itís all about development but have more or less been just as bad as the first team since their inception , and they are winless and already bottom dwellers in MLS pro so far already .The less of these signings the better , they have to figure out these ongoing injuries season after season itís getting beyond ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan2 View Post
    Have been doing these type of short signings for the past what three shitty seasons from TFC2 who yes I know it’s all about development but have more or less been just as bad as the first team since their inception , and they are winless and already bottom dwellers in MLS pro so far already .The less of these signings the better , they have to figure out these ongoing injuries season after season it’s getting beyond ridiculous.
    More than any of that, they have to rebuild their academy system as a proper academy system, with scholarships and free rides rather than paid involvement.

    We lose all of the best young prospects long before they even get to the TFCII stage, pilfered from our system . Most of the successful young Canadian players in MLS AND overseas have, at some point, either been in TFC's system or were rejected stupidly by TFC in their early teens.

    We need an academy-based system that has built-in schooling components and all costs picked up. After a few seasons of seeing their child as just more grist for the MLSE money mill, I can see it being a relatively easy decision for a parent to pull them out and send to them to a system with a better track record of producing pros.

    Does anyone know what position this kid plays? I wonder if Herdman is looking for a second anchor/wrecker, realizing he's not going to get that from Longstaff/Osorio/Coello.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Does anyone know what position this kid plays? I wonder if Herdman is looking for a second anchor/wrecker, realizing he's not going to get that from Longstaff/Osorio/Coello.
    According to John Molinaro's website, Andrei Dumitru made his debut with TFC II last Sunday. At the start, he was lined up as part of a front three, but during the game, it sound like he was playing more like a deep lying midfielder, who was providing support to the backline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowm1 View Post
    According to John Molinaro's website, Andrei Dumitru made his debut with TFC II last Sunday. At the start, he was lined up as part of a front three, but during the game, it sound like he was playing more like a deep lying midfielder, who was providing support to the backline.
    I notice we plucked him from League1 last season. I wonder if he's been brought up partly to put some heat on the guys ahead of him. Maybe Herdman's trying to send them a message he's looking at other options. Nothing motivates a guy like the prospect of going from playing to sitting.

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    ^ I thought this was already the case? (At least from 14 and up).

    Are we seriously running pay-for-play? They might as well shut themselves down on those grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    I notice we plucked him from League1 last season. I wonder if he's been brought up partly to put some heat on the guys ahead of him. Maybe Herdman's trying to send them a message he's looking at other options. Nothing motivates a guy like the prospect of going from playing to sitting.
    He has been in the TFC's academy since 2016. TFCA had a L1O entry in the fall league last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    He has been in the TFC's academy since 2016. TFCA had a L1O entry in the fall league last season.
    I had forgotten that. Thanks dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    ^ I thought this was already the case? (At least from 14 and up).

    Are we seriously running pay-for-play? They might as well shut themselves down on those grounds.
    I think you're right and I'm just forgetting that it's u-14 up as just a club academy now. But I don't know about costs, schooling etc. I see no sign the club is picking that up (so that they can get kids from outside the GTA more easily). European clubs have been doing it for years.

    They still have Pay-for-play but they do it in seasonal 'TFC Academy Camps' now, which are open whomever has the dough.
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    Please just don't look awful

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    Coello & turf passing....

    Wait...is that a 4-4-2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Coello & turf passing....

    Wait...is that a 4-4-2?
    Google has it as a 3-4-3 with Petretta and Coello as wingbacks.

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    3-4-3 with Berna as a WB

    Lloyd Sam drives me to mute

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    Coello with 4 guys charging manages to pick out their guy...

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    That was...annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    That was...annoying.
    That's completely on Johnson. Don't know how he manages to miss that.

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    Yes on Johnson
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    Ball falls out of the sky and NONE of 6 guys in the area goes for the ball.

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    Meh. Working hard, one momentary lapse in pressure and we give one up.

    Johnson's not going to save that, it was buried in the corner.

    We're just not quick enough offensively or there's one poor pass in the buildup.

    We might get one, salvage a point out of this, but it'll take a small miracle. Just no speed going forward, no quickness to unbalance them.

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    Even if we have a striker, he would be starving for service. The only creative player we have is Oso and he is continually being forced to play much higher up the pitch than he should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Even if we have a striker, he would be starving for service. The only creative player we have is Oso and he is continually being forced to play much higher up the pitch than he should be.
    yep. Not to theorycraft too hard but in this league we nor any team can really just be that team to have a lone guy up in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 that is the only dude whose supposed to make runs, hold or chance create. With how the leagues teams setup and current world soccer metagame, a single DP striker would do shit all with our current team except maybe add an extra goal here or there.

    We need more supplementary runs and overloads and the current team just don't do it. Why would they flip a switch and learn to make those runs when we finally get a guy uptop who's a bit more dynamic? Oso, Flores, coello, and even longstaff all want to operate in the same sections on the field and aren't really loaded up in dribble/close quarters abilities needed to be a guy that sits higher up.

    Jloomes comment there in another section was lights out and highlights that problem. we got too many guys tied up into salary who do the exact same thing or fall into the same section of the fields and aren't getting much diversity in ability for our salary cap bucks lol. Need more than just a striker

 

 

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