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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    e.g. Last week bit about how Herdman not actually coaching until after this week is a sign of massive dysfunction.

    Insigne & Berna discussions rather more pointed & disparaging then any other journalists out there.
    Thanks and I will tune in tonight to see if this trend continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Stick View Post
    Thanks and I will tune in tonight to see if this trend continues.
    They've been pretty unreasonable about all of it. On one hand, they intimate that he's insane to come to the dumpster fire that is TFC, on the other they've suggested he was fleeing the nats because he'd lost the locker room.

    It's just nonsense.

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    https://www.torontofc.ca/news/toront...of-performance

    Our new conditioning director is an adjunct at UBC. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    https://www.torontofc.ca/news/toront...of-performance

    Our new conditioning director is an adjunct at UBC. Go figure.
    I know different spelling but still not going to stop at least one person out there thinking TFC hired the Dog Whisperer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kool View Post
    I know different spelling but still not going to stop at least one person out there thinking TFC hired the Dog Whisperer.
    The memes are already circulating.

    Hopefully this guy is a lower body injury whisperer because we sorely need that.

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    With the number of comings and goes in management over the last six month TFC has basically restructured itself. Why on earth any owner would leave that task to the guy who screwed it all up in the first place is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    With the number of comings and goes in management over the last six month TFC has basically restructured itself. Why on earth any owner would leave that task to the guy who screwed it all up in the first place is beyond me.
    There's a lot of saying you've learned from past mistakes but repeating the same mistakes over and over in TFC land. This is our way. Now we'll overload with fringe Canadians and do 2009 all over again. Go for a throwback instead of 2017 for the 4th time.

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    The one thing I will say is I have a lot of respect for the scout who worked under Herdman with Canada football. He was constantly finding things out and staying ahead of the curve.

    He could be a really great find for club level if those skills translate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    https://www.torontofc.ca/news/toront...of-performance

    Our new conditioning director is an adjunct at UBC. Go figure.
    Hmmm... a contingent academic labourer!

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    I guess that’s life in the career world in any leader, management or exec position. You build a network of strong work partners/tribe of specialists and council that allow you to get the best out of yourself, and help make buy-in and execution on any future state visions of your organization, or new projects a lot easier without red tape and politics.

    - that’s what herdman’s doing- it’s what all bosses or ambitious folks aiming for higher stakes does. Bring your tribe with you as you move up. He needs to if he’s to succeed in this mess.

    Still, I can’t help but get kind of annoyed that it feels like this is just an exodus of the cmnt staff pool, & and a mix of herdman bringing his tribe, giving them an out from the shitshow that’s our WC team since he’s leaving too.

    I don’t think it’s something I like, and it’s gonna take some warming up and some repeated results to completely sell me. I fully back our NT and the lads, and want to live the day when we can compete on equal talent and professionalism to the big NT’s- but I absolutely abhor the back room old boys club clique rings in the soccer circles from provincial to NT levels that ironically slow down this countries progress, and the last thing I wanted was to get a sense that that vibe was coming to TFC. If manning thinks this is how we can become a domestic giant like a Bayern, Benfica, Barca/RM, or Ajax - and fill it with domestic football clique/circles, this ain’t it it.

    I’ll wait and let the results change my perception and buyin lol. These lads might be the best in the league and I eat crow - but perceptions and optics are a hard thing to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveThreeTwo View Post
    Still, I can’t help but get kind of annoyed that it feels like this is just an exodus of the cmnt staff pool, & and a mix of herdman bringing his tribe, giving them an out from the shitshow that’s our WC team since he’s leaving too.
    Thought I read that he had to get sponsors to cover the salaries of a lot of this staff when working for the CSA. I figure with him gone, that will probably go as well and then they'd be volunteers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    Never saw it get reported , nut surprising at all, but Conway has not been with th club for a while, David Monsalve has been working in the GK coach role for the at least the last few games. He was the only member of the first team that did not follow Vanney to LA, not sure what that means, but then again his roots are here considering his wife's broadcast career. Man does TFC coverage really suffer when neither of the two dailies have a beat writer.
    I can't believe Conway is finally gone. Well, we'll have to see if my theory TFC goalkeepers degrading under his guidance was correct or not. Monsalve was my son's GK coach back during his Ottawa Fury days while Monsalve was their Third-string GK, and my son seemed to like his style of coaching and learned stuff from him. I would have thought they'd go with GK coach with more experience though. I hope he does well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    I can't believe Conway is finally gone. Well, we'll have to see if my theory TFC goalkeepers degrading under his guidance was correct or not. Monsalve was my son's GK coach back during his Ottawa Fury days while Monsalve was their Third-string GK, and my son seemed to like his style of coaching and learned stuff from him. I would have thought they'd go with GK coach with more experience though. I hope he does well.
    He’s just filling in. It’s the GK coach from the nats, Simon Eaddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    Well, we'll have to see if my theory TFC goalkeepers degrading under his guidance was correct or not.
    Me too but I went out of my way to watch Bono this year to see if a different GK coach might fix some his Bono-isms and he looks better than he has in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Me too but I went out of my way to watch Bono this year to see if a different GK coach might fix some his Bono-isms and he looks better than he has in a long time.
    I wonder how much of that is due to a different coach or just getting out of Toronto and having a new environment around him? He was here for what 7-8 years so the change probably did him some good. I know keepers usually can play longer than most players and probably mature at a later age too..but how much do you think a 29 year old is learning new things or picking up stuff due to coaching?
    But I'm glad he has done better this year at least. I haven't checked in with Westberg were you checking in on him too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 613reppingTFC View Post
    how much do you think a 29 year old is learning new things or picking up stuff due to coaching?
    Not sure but at 29 you can learn good habits and increase hand speed. For instance, I am learning a new type of music in a new band I am in and it is way faster and more complicated than anything I did before. I am learning on YouTube, improving fast, and I am a lot older than 29. So it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 613reppingTFC View Post
    I wonder how much of that is due to a different coach or just getting out of Toronto and having a new environment around him? He was here for what 7-8 years so the change probably did him some good. I know keepers usually can play longer than most players and probably mature at a later age too..but how much do you think a 29 year old is learning new things or picking up stuff due to coaching?
    But I'm glad he has done better this year at least. I haven't checked in with Westberg were you checking in on him too?
    as a leeds fan ive seen first hand a new environment and a good coach can transform a player of almost any age, especially if they've not been exposed to similar techniques and training before.

    see: leeds players before and then during bielsa era.

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    ^
    Surely you make a funny? IMO, Herdman. Is. Not. An. El Loco. Never will be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    ^
    Surely you make a funny? IMO, Herdman. Is. Not. An. El Loco. Never will be!
    But his GK coach isn't Conway or equivalent........hopefully.

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    dunfield has lowered the standards to the floor, coach wise, so herdman can thank him for that.

    bob was fired (rightly, imo) for achieving about 1 ppg (slightly less) over the first 20 games.

    dunfield has an average right now of 0.25 ppg over the last 12 games, got to be one of the worst record in MLS history for a coach in place for over, say, 5 games.

    i know the squad isn't strong but it's not nearly as bad as it's been made to look via incompetent coaching over last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    dunfield has lowered the standards to the floor, coach wise.
    This had to be the plan. There's really no other reason to have done it or stuck to it. Unless they figured tanking it would make certain players with difficult contracts more willing to mutually terminate.

    Either way this is a HUGE nail in the Hernandez Death Watch column. Bill's has more nails in it than Home Depot at this point so why bother even mentioning him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    This had to be the plan. There's really no other reason to have done it or stuck to it. Unless they figured tanking it would make certain players with difficult contracts more willing to mutually terminate...
    This unless! This very sinister thought. I was stewing on it throughout the entirety of last nights match as Apple kept cutting to 'overlord's watch' just note taking. The clearest signal that someone, in some dark MLSE corner, decided some time ago to boil all our frogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    dunfield has lowered the standards to the floor, coach wise, so herdman can thank him for that.

    bob was fired (rightly, imo) for achieving about 1 ppg (slightly less) over the first 20 games.

    dunfield has an average right now of 0.25 ppg over the last 12 games, got to be one of the worst record in MLS history for a coach in place for over, say, 5 games.

    i know the squad isn't strong but it's not nearly as bad as it's been made to look via incompetent coaching over last few months.
    Agreed. And yet again, this is on Manning for not having a managerial structure in place that would bring in a suitable replacement. Bob’s reign was looking shakey for quite a while before we pulled the plug, how we could not have the foresight to have at least a suitable intern staffer in the building is beyond me.

    This is all not as hard as TFC is making it look.

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    This is all about getting top pick in the superdraft. Dr Evil level of genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kool View Post
    This is all about getting top pick in the superdraft. Dr Evil level of genius.
    Oh, don't worry. I'm sure we'll trade it away for something--maybe a second chance at MAK?

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    Former field coach Paul Stalteri is the new assistant coach of Team Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Former field coach Paul Stalteri is the new assistant coach of Team Canada.
    So is former TFC commentator extraordinaire Steven Caldwell.

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    So Scott Arfield to return to the CanMNT....

    God I hate the ol boy nature of soccer in this part of the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    So Scott Arfield to return to the CanMNT....

    God I hate the ol boy nature of soccer in this part of the world
    Caldwell got in a spat with Herdman and got canned after Herdman left Arfield out for half-assing his commitment, basically. Now Caldwell's back in, so Arfield's back in.

    Arfield's a good player, but he's 33 and we have multiple guys ahead of him on the nats.

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    How awful has this Terry period been? This has to be the last time he is allowed anywhere near a team. They should have fired the interim for another interim after 4 loss start.
    With Bob they had 18 Pts in 20 Games, with Dunfield 3 in 12 while losing 2 league cup matches!
    1 win and 13 losses!!

    To contrast, Javier Perez an actual qualified manager and not someone Bill Manning knows managed a 5-9-9 record, not great but 24 pts in 23 games with no DPs is not a catastrophe.

 

 

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