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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    This is why we need to split the league into MLS Premiership and MLS Championship in the future. Let them go and enjoy the level they aspire to. Sure we'll be down there with them but through abject failure rather than extreme cheapness.
    This will never happen. No owner is going to want this, doesn’t matter if they are cheap or spend like TFC. I like the idea, but the fact that MLS is a single entity with joint ownership means it will always be driven by profitability concerns.

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    I don't have a good feeling about this game.

    But if Canada can win on Sunday, I'll probably still be high enough on that that I won't notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Or end up with a Saputo and be mediocre & unstable forever.
    Sure.
    Anything is possible.

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    Watching LAFC, I'm starting to see teams apply the same blueprint to beat them as us: quick switches of field to the high winger, then flood the box; defend with a higher line to prevent us setting anything up in their end.

    LAFC hasn't won in six games now, despite seeming a dominant team in this league. Champions League headache, sure, but that's been a total of three extra games this year so far.

    I hate to say it, but people who said Ben Olsen was much better than DC's record because of what he had to work with are looking pretty sensible right now. He not only has Houston clicking, he sussed out LAFC for a joke. They didn't get a look offensively. Whenever they did manage to work the ball deep, Houston dropped 10 behind the ball and... surprise, surprise, they couldn't figure a way past it.

    Some notions out there that Vela has lost a step, and that's all it has taken.

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    ^
    One trick pony? Maybe the reason why Cherundolo is entertaining getting out; while that getting is good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    ^
    One trick pony? Maybe the reason why Cherundolo is entertaining getting out; while that getting is good?
    He denied USMNT interest and they went back to Berhalter so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    I don't have a good feeling about this game.

    But if Canada can win on Sunday, I'll probably still be high enough on that that I won't notice.
    ^exactly this

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    He denied USMNT interest and they went back to Berhalter so...
    True. Seems I missed Cherundolo's clarification-statement that it was fake news shortly after that chatter began. However he is then quoted offering this gem; IMO, not someone very confident in his standing within the club...


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    Maybe, if some of the reporting is accurate, and CMNT does go next gen for the GC, TFC then gets Oso and Richie back sooner rather than later than expected for the MLS regular season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    True. Seems I missed Cherundolo's clarification-statement that it was fake news shortly after that chatter began. However he is then quoted offering this gem; IMO, not someone very confident in his standing within the club...

    He didn't say this. It's a made-up quote.

    If a quote seems too outrageous to be true, or career suicide, copy and paste it into a Google News search. If it's a real quote, multiple articles from actual news outlets will have it. No news organization would sit on this if he'd actually said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    He didn't say this. It's a made-up quote. If a quote seems too outrageous to be true, or career suicide, copy and paste it into a Google News search. If it's a real quote, multiple articles from actual news outlets will have it. No news organization would sit on this if he'd actually said it.
    Tried doing my homework on the poster before I quoted him. Understood him to be a Michael Singh local type club journo.

    Believe @ circa 3:00 min. mark...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Maybe, if some of the reporting is accurate, and CMNT does go next gen for the GC, TFC then gets Oso and Richie back sooner rather than later than expected for the MLS regular season?
    Richie and Oso both on the gold cup roster-Kaye isn’t Schaff is
    Last edited by Gringo Starr; 06-19-2023 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Tried doing my homework on the poster before I quoted him. Understood him to be a Michael Singh local type club journo.

    Believe @ circa 3:00 min. mark...

    DUDE! He edited the quote!

    Pretty goddamned significantly, too. What he actually said was "The only thing holding us back are the rules and regulations OF ROSTER BUILDING."

    He didn't cut it after regulations, which makes it sound like the guy wants to break the rules.

    With "of roster building" in there, it's just another quote about MLS' arcane rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo Starr View Post
    Richie and Oso both on the gold cup roster-Kaye isn’t Schaff is
    Are the other teammates mentioned recently by TSN as not going to participate in that tourno also announced or absent? If they are absent, then I have a problem with both of them participating and missing TFC matches.

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    According to Molinaro, Oso and Richie available for Wednesday's match?


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    Guess since Canada's first game is in Toronto, the CMNT will be here, so makes sense that Oso and Richie can play. Herdman is probably going to ask that they play 45 minutes max though.

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    Follow-up tweet. Gavran to be on a short-term.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Are the other teammates mentioned recently by TSN as not going to participate in that tourno also announced or absent? If they are absent, then I have a problem with both of them participating and missing TFC matches.
    I put it in the CMNT thread but will add here:
    Gold cup roster out:
    Canada’s full 23-man squad is below:
    GK- Milan Borjan | SRB / FK Crvena zvezda (Red Star Belgrade)
    GK- Tom McGill | ENG / Brighton & Hove Albion FC
    GK- Dayne St. Clair | USA / Minnesota United FC
    CB- Moïse Bombito | USA / Colorado Rapids
    CB- Scott Kennedy | GER / SSV Jahn Regensburg
    CB- Zachary McGraw | USA / Portland Timbers
    CB- Steven Vitória | POR / GD Chaves
    CB- Dominick Zator | POL / Korona Kielce
    FB- Samuel Adekugbe | TUR / Galatasaray SK
    FB- Zachary Brault-Guillard | CAN / CF Montréal
    FB- Richie Laryea | CAN / Toronto FC
    FB- Kamal Miller | USA / CF Inter Miami
    M- Ali Ahmed | Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Stephen Eustáquio | POR / FC Porto
    M- Victor Loturi | SCO / Ross County FC
    M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- David Wotherspoon | Unattached / sans club
    F- David Junior Hoilett | ENG / Reading FC
    F- Charles-Andreas Brym | NED / FC Eindhoven
    F- Lucas Cavallini | MEX / Club Tijuana
    F- Liam Millar | SUI / FC Basel
    F- Jacen Russell-Rowe | USA / Columbus Crew
    F- Jacob Shaffelburg | USA / Nashville SC

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydermike View Post
    Follow-up tweet. Gavran to be on a short-term.

    And become short term contracts are for 4 days , it would mean they only have to use one deal to cover both Wednesday and Saturday. It would also be the case for July 1 and 4.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    So I’ll be at the game. Current options are

    1. Excited and engaged (TFC win)
    2. Falling asleep (Draw)
    3. Intoxicated (Cincy blowout)

    I’m planning on taking the next day off work due to hangover

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    I don't have a good feeling about this game.

    But if Canada can win on Sunday, I'll probably still be high enough on that that I won't notice.

    Soooo....now what?

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    This has been a bad couple of days/months on the question of “Our Soccer Relevance” (eg TFC as a solid MLS franchise, Canada as an emerging soccer country)

    Seems like there is a cap on our ambitions, for now

    Cincinnati 3-1
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    This has been a bad couple of days/months on the question of “Our Soccer Relevance” (eg TFC as a solid MLS franchise, Canada as an emerging soccer country)

    Seems like there is a cap on our ambitions, for now

    Cincinnati 3-1
    I’m impressed with the amount of engagement Canada is getting. However, it’s a shame the team is hidden in the nether regions of subscription services and commentated over by the local dunce.

    We’ll see if it lasts and if the CSA is forced to clean up its act when it has so much pressure over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    This has been a bad couple of days/months on the question of “Our Soccer Relevance” (eg TFC as a solid MLS franchise, Canada as an emerging soccer country)

    Seems like there is a cap on our ambitions, for now

    Cincinnati 3-1
    I wonder if this is why this year feels worse than other downturns in the club’s trajectory. It’s as if we are watching TFC blow its chance to be a big dominant club in North America just as the game is in its ascendancy here. Other teams are better run, the new stadiums being built are fantastic and we still have the same issues-an academy that can’t produce, the same stadium issues of a North stand and Argos, and our go to solution of find an Italian….

    I’m thinking more 2-0 for Cincinnati-our defence is okay but I don’t see us scoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo Starr View Post
    I wonder if this is why this year feels worse than other downturns in the club’s trajectory. It’s as if we are watching TFC blow its chance to be a big dominant club in North America just as the game is in its ascendancy here. Other teams are better run, the new stadiums being built are fantastic and we still have the same issues-an academy that can’t produce, the same stadium issues of a North stand and Argos, and our go to solution of find an Italian….

    I’m thinking more 2-0 for Cincinnati-our defence is okay but I don’t see us scoring.
    This is why it feels worse to me. Previously we just sucked, I've supported far worse teams than us at our worst so whatever, that was fine and cab be fun. But this is the opportunity cost. We may never have another shot at what Manning and Bradley absolutely blew up, and that is so demoralizing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post
    This is why it feels worse to me. Previously we just sucked, I've supported far worse teams than us at our worst so whatever, that was fine and cab be fun. But this is the opportunity cost. We may never have another shot at what Manning and Bradley absolutely blew up, and that is so demoralizing to me.
    The slogan of sound accompaniment advice to watching TFC these days...'cab be fun'!
    Feeling... Northern Gloom 1, Southern Stomp 3.

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    Any specific bars/pubs/locations in Toronto dedicated to showing the game tonight with sound on??

    (It's embarrassing that this even needs to be asked, just 3-5 years ago it was much easier)

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    Things I'm going to be watching for tonight


    How are the backup GKs?
    Mabika progress
    Can Berna get integrated with the attack?
    Will Insigne continue his quality work of late?
    How does MAK respond to the CanMNT situation?
    How does BB react to game states in terms of formation changes & tactical adjustments & subs?

    i.e. watching the process rather then the actual result

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Things I'm going to be watching for tonight
    …..
    i.e. watching the process rather then the actual result
    Consider acquiring a 1.5L bottle of Absolut or similar. It will prove useful on the process journey.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Consider acquiring a 1.5L bottle of Absolut or similar. It will prove useful on the process journey.
    Thats Gold, Ensco! Gold!

 

 

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