Match Day 15 - DCU @ TFC Sat May 27 7:39pm - There's a black hat caught

**jloome** · 05-23-2023, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Gringo Starr

I know we have been crap before but I am amazed by the way the veneer has peeled away this time around, that they have lost control of the narrative especially without having to face a probing media. To see this happen to two dominant media companies is fascinating to me. I know you have mentioned everyone being siloed but the Dubas presser was wild and Shanahan’s to me reeked of self preservation. I just never expected people to get exposed in the way it’s playing out.

I think it's quite rare for a company this large and overarching to also have to be forward-facing, because many of their customers are sports fans. Most large corporations only face this sort of scrutiny when they break the law or are life-threatening.

But sports is the most public, consistently accessed portion of the news -- in any country-- which is why it's so ideal for sportswashing by countries like the UAE and Saudi. Your narrative is out there every day.

The downside to that is it requires solid control over the outward message, or it's like having an entire government department meltdown: you quickly realize most of the time, the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing, because there are too many directors, too many departments, too many individualized fiefdoms of responsibility, too few people actively holding it all together.

**OgtheDim** · 05-24-2023, 11:19 AM

FWIW

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1661404572693192704

**SenorDingDong** · 05-24-2023, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by OgtheDim

FWIW

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1661404572693192704

Was Diomande on a 1 year contract? I get the sense we will never see him or Vazquez this season.

**Ultra & Proud** · 05-24-2023, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by SenorDingDong

Was Diomande on a 1 year contract? I get the sense we will never see him or Vazquez this season.

I think it's a two year deal because why not pay over $500K annually to a guy who didn't play much for a few years.

But we did get to see them both play. Just not very much and neither did anything worth the $800K+ they're burning this season.

**ag futbol** · 05-24-2023, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud

I think it's a two year deal because why not pay over $500K annually to a guy who didn't play much for a few years.

But we did get to see them both play. Just not very much and neither did anything worth the $800K+ they're burning this season.

Dio on anything more than a one year contract plus a one year team option would be criminal. He should of had basically zero leverage going into negotiations.

**los sonadores** · 05-24-2023, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by ag futbol

Dio on anything more than a one year contract plus a one year team option would be criminal. He should have had basically zero leverage going into negotiations.

Yeah, so true. And he’s a big part of the reason we had virtually no striker through the first ten matches or so. That’s got to be the biggest signing failure so far. VV I figured we’d lucky if he got in a handful of meaningful games and I didn’t expect any full matches.

**Mr. Inbetween** · 05-24-2023, 01:23 PM

Follow-up…

Check out this tweet at [URL]https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1661407448652034048[/URL]

**MikeForbes** · 05-24-2023, 01:28 PM

Did we ever hear anything about Michael Bradley outside of him heading to England for a hamstring surgery?

**Ultra & Proud** · 05-24-2023, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by MikeForbes

Did we ever hear anything about Michael Bradley outside of him heading to England for a hamstring surgery?

Not a thing. No mention if he even had the surgery. Normally I would find that odd but this is TFC 2023 and they don't share info other than what the players are wearing when they get to the stadium and a couple of professional looking training photos a week with a witty caption under them.

**jloome** · 05-24-2023, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by MikeForbes

Did we ever hear anything about Michael Bradley outside of him heading to England for a hamstring surgery?

Not as bad as it could have been, eight to 10 weeks. So he'll be back with about a third of the season left.

**OgtheDim** · 05-24-2023, 09:05 PM

Refs

Toronto FC vs D.C. United
BMO Field (7:30PM ET)
REF: Lukasz Szpala
AR1: Jason White
AR2: Chantal Boudreau
4TH: Sergii Demianchuk
VAR: Michael Radchuk
AVAR: Gjovalin Bori

Commentators

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/MLS_PR/status/1661356458187931648

Heldrith has done announcing for awhile - has partnered with St Aubin for awhile too. "The voice of NWSL"

**Mr. Inbetween** · 05-25-2023, 10:09 AM

FWIW, regarding Insigne’s injury!? Also, not sure about this account; thoughts?

Check out this tweet at [URL]https://twitter.com/tfcnewsoutlet/status/1661562980499173380[/URL]

**Canary10** · 05-25-2023, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween

FWIW, regarding Insigne’s injury!? Also, not sure about this account; thoughts?

Check out this tweet at [URL]https://twitter.com/tfcnewsoutlet/status/1661562980499173380[/URL]

Kaylyn Kyle was the one who said he travelled, wasn't it?

**ag futbol** · 05-25-2023, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Canary10

Kaylyn Kyle was the one who said he travelled, wasn't it?

Would seem to be an easy point of clarification, no? Picture of LI in Austin and Bob’s just painted himself into one more corner.

**Canary10** · 05-25-2023, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by ag futbol

Would seem to be an easy point of clarification, no? Picture of LI in Austin and Bob’s just painted himself into one more corner.

I thought other players confirmed he didn't travel.

**jloome** · 05-25-2023, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Canary10

I thought other players confirmed he didn't travel.

Yeah, Kaye did.

I suspect what has happened with Kyle, as its third-hand stuff through her hubbie, is that Harrison Heath heard about a dispute with Bernardeschi and that got confused with Insigne. The "he didn't travel" stuff could have been as easy as him surmising and then stating "that's why he didn't go to Austin," and just assuming it.

It's important to remember that even though she has an "in" at the team, she's not a reporter or journalist. She's an ex-player talking head announcer, with no experience in dealing with the nuance that can lead to misunderstandings.

**ensco** · 05-25-2023, 10:59 AM

^If that is what happened, you are being too nice, jloome. Experienced journalist or not, she went out on a national platform with a bogus and defamatory story. She tweets multiple times a day. She needed to correct that yesterday.

**Mr. Inbetween** · 05-25-2023, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Canary10

Kaylyn Kyle was the one who said he travelled, wasn't it?

Sort of. Certainly amplified those 'reports/rumours'; poured gasoline on a fire. Except I understand they were basically from/originated with an identified well known Toronto-centric account that spreads falsehoods involving TFC. She is very opportunistic in her analyst commentary and pundit reporting; personal peeve of mine. Parsed her comments scrupulously, one needs to listen carefully, I was easily overwhelmed just by the totality of what was being stated... Lollo 'does not want to work with (? not play for!) Bob Bradley'. Certainly put the source spotlight, an unnecessary whitsle-blower target, on Richie! While not trying to minimize what may be unfolding, since I believe there are huge issues at TFC, there are days that I myself do not want to work with some people I work with/for and tell a colleague or two so and keep doing my job professionally.

**jloome** · 05-25-2023, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by ensco

^If that is what happened, you are being too nice, jloome. Experienced journalist or not, she went out on a national platform with a bogus and defamatory story. She tweets multiple times a day. She needed to correct that yesterday.

She probably hasn't even noticed. I mean, it clearly didn't occur to her that Richie is going to be instantly outed as her source by many, as her husband played with him at Orlando. Many people know that. It's not a secret.

Yet not even an attempt to deflect by saying "a source within the league" or something that might've separated it but still been technically accurate.

She has no craft. She's just a talking head.

**Canary10** · 05-25-2023, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween

Sort of. Certainly amplified those 'reports/rumours'; poured gasoline on a fire. Except I understand they were basically from/originated with an identified well known Toronto-centric account that spreads falsehoods involving TFC. She is very opportunistic in her analyst commentary and pundit reporting; personal peeve of mine. Parsed her comments scrupulously, one needs to listen carefully, I was easily overwhelmed just by the totality of what was being stated... Lollo 'does not want to work with (? not play for!) Bob Bradley'. Certainly put the source spotlight, an unnecessary whitsle-blower target, on Richie! While not trying to minimize what may be unfolding, since I believe there are huge issues at TFC, there are days that I myself do not want to work with some people I work with/for and tell a colleague or two so and keep doing my job professionally.

Agreed, totally makes it look like Richie spilled the beans. Really poor form from her. Agree with Ensco as well.

**nolimitag** · 05-25-2023, 03:11 PM

Anyone have 4 tickets for Saturday?

**jloome** · 05-25-2023, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by nolimitag

Anyone have 4 tickets for Saturday?

Check the Reddit r/tfc forum tomorrow and Saturday morning. There's usually a half-dozen or more free pairs on offer from people who can't make it.

**Slick** · 05-25-2023, 05:15 PM

I am not going to the game this weekend, and I'm not giving my seats away to a friend or a relative. I'll evaluate week over week if it will continue for the remainder of the season

**rydermike** · 05-25-2023, 08:54 PM

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/WakingtheRed/status/1661789941527879682

**Mr. Inbetween** · 05-26-2023, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by jloome

Not as bad as it could have been, eight to 10 weeks. So he'll be back with about a third of the season left.

That seems to be the standard recovery time frame the Doc spiels for footballers. IMHO, TFC journos will need to ask if any 3D CT imaging has occurred post op as a follow-up; a self noted warning indicator that recovery progress will not be standard!

Check out this tweet at [URL]https://twitter.com/DocStijn/status/1192091746836058112[/URL]

**Mr. Inbetween** · 05-26-2023, 04:52 AM

Official! So expected to be in the line-up? We shall see.

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/JohnMolinaro/status/1661884861320429569

**SenorDingDong** · 05-26-2023, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by rydermike

Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/WakingtheRed/status/1661789941527879682

Diomande. Comes back for 1 game, then out for 3. Rinse and repeat.

**Ultra & Proud** · 05-26-2023, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by SenorDingDong

Diomande. Comes back for 1 game, then out for 3. Rinse and repeat.

Solid use of $500K.

**SenorDingDong** · 05-26-2023, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud

Solid use of $500K.

Him and Akinola worst two contracts on the team.

1 million + between them.

**Ultra & Proud** · 05-26-2023, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by SenorDingDong

Him and Akinola worst two contracts on the team.

1 million + between them.

Over $1M for no goals or even a hope of a goal.

At least Akinola tripped over the ball on that breakaway. We'll always have that memory of him. By winter I will have forgotten Diomande completely.

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