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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    johnson ended up joining the team in training fwiw.

    i'd go:

    insigne sapong berna
    MAK Oso Alonso
    RP SR MH RL
    SJ

    this is ABSOLUTELY a must win.

    we really need minimum 7 points from the next 4 games minimum or BB will be in trouble (and progression in the VC, ofc).
    If Servania is available I would put him over Coello. Otherwise, that's about as good as it gets for us.

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    Well, we can't be worse off than we were up top. Hopefully he just slots in and sees what's going on. He's a veteran, he's a hold up guy. This can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    If Servania is available I would put him over Coello. Otherwise, that's about as good as it gets for us.
    I think Coelo has to be the natural sub for either MAK or Oso, because his pace is not his strength and on the right side we have more defensive fires to put out based on the wing being overloaded.

    I'd probably sub it as

    Insigne (JMR) Sapong (Dio) Bernie (Kerr)

    MAK (Coelo) Oso (Coelo) Servania (Thompson)

    RP (Guti) SR (O'Neill) Hedges (Mabike) Laryea (Franklin)

    Then probably rotate the mids as required to get MB in.

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    Why don't we start with MAK on the bloody bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    Why don't we start with MAK on the bloody bench
    1. We spent an absurd amount of GAM on him
    2. That would insinuate Bob/Bill made a mistake
    3. He plays (very occasionally) for the CMNT. So, buy your tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    Why don't we start with MAK on the bloody bench
    And replace him with?

    (Servania & BB injured this week btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    johnson ended up joining the team in training fwiw.

    i'd go:

    insigne sapong berna
    MAK Oso Alonso
    RP SR MH RL
    SJ

    this is ABSOLUTELY a must win.

    we really need minimum 7 points from the next 4 games minimum or BB will be in trouble (and progression in the VC, ofc).
    I think that’s gotta be the line up (given the injuries to MB and Servania).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Well, we can't be worse off than we were up top. Hopefully he just slots in and sees what's going on. He's a veteran, he's a hold up guy. This can work.
    I agree. Even with weak hold up play last week from Peruzza we looked better.

    No question that the idea is Diomande and Sapong in platoon. I think it can work.

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    For those watching at home, the Apple commentators are Tony Husband & Kyndra St. Aubin

    Some will love the British voice but he does the BBC "hyperbola at any form of momentum" thing. Kyndra St. Aubin is a decent colour analyst who even when with the Loons did criticise both teams during the run of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    For those watching at home, the Apple commentators are Tony Husband & Kyndra St. Aubin

    Some will love the British voice but he does the BBC "hyperbola at any form of momentum" thing. Kyndra St. Aubin is a decent colour analyst who even when with the Loons did criticise both teams during the run of play.
    As much as I love the Beeb and consume mostly British Tv, their regional announcers are very mixed these days. The make a big deal out of nothing trend seems almost endemic these days,

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    For those watching at home, the Apple commentators are Tony Husband & Kyndra St. Aubin

    Some will love the British voice but he does the BBC "hyperbola at any form of momentum" thing. Kyndra St. Aubin is a decent colour analyst who even when with the Loons did criticise both teams during the run of play.
    St. Aubin is alright but I think Apple dropped the ball with these announcers. Most are terrible. I mean really bad. They make me miss Caldwell and that's saying something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    St. Aubin is alright but I think Apple dropped the ball with these announcers. Most are terrible. I mean really bad. They make me miss Caldwell and that's saying something.
    She was atrocious on the San Jose game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    And replace him with?

    (Servania & BB injured this week btw)

    well if the team wasnt gutted TFC would have some what of an adequate replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    1. We spent an absurd amount of GAM on him
    2. That would insinuate Bob/Bill made a mistake
    3. He plays (very occasionally) for the CMNT. So, buy your tickets.

    This- MAK hasnt started recently- whoever envisioned - OSO + MAK-should be fired ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    She was atrocious on the San Jose game.
    That was Danielle Slaton - ex SJE colour commentator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    well if the team wasnt gutted TFC would have some what of an adequate replacement.
    We have 6 central mids...how many more do we want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    We have 6 central mids...how many more do we want?
    We have 6, sure, how many start at a shield chasing team? Maybe Osorio, if he gets back to his best?

    I don't think 'look how many we have' is a defence of the squad assembly if none of them are particularly inspiring

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post
    We have 6, sure, how many start at a shield chasing team?....
    This is hindsight. In 2016, in April, most of us would have said 1 (MB), maybe 2 in Will Johnson. People hated Delgado & thought Oso would never grow up. Cooper & Cheyrou hadn't shown up yet & VV was next season.

    Next year, we were arguably the best MLS team ever. (I'm not saying 2023 = 2016 - I'm saying shield chasing is not what this team was going to be this season)

    ********

    My response was to somebody saying in essence, MAK has to be on the bench. That means a 3 person mid of Oso, Coello & ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    This is hindsight. In 2016, in April, most of us would have said 1 (MB), maybe 2 in Will Johnson. People hated Delgado & thought Oso would never grow up. Cooper & Cheyrou hadn't shown up yet & VV was next season.

    Next year, we were arguably the best MLS team ever. (I'm not saying 2023 = 2016 - I'm saying shield chasing is not what this team was going to be this season)

    ********

    My response was to somebody saying in essence, MAK has to be on the bench. That means a 3 person mid of Oso, Coello & ?
    But then their reply was basically we'd have options if we didn't shit the bed in roster construction. And there's just no way to look at our central mid field and our alleged cap space and not agree with that sentiment. We can have a list of 6, 7, 10 central mid fielders if none are good enough for a club at the level we should be at that isn't a good thing

    I mean 1 maybe 2 starters in a top mls team is a damn sight better than us now with 0, maaaaybe at a stretch 1, if his form turns around. Even a team looking to finish top 3 or 4 in a conference and take a run in the play offs, no team matching that description takes any of our central mid field right now

    Basically I don't think 'look how many we have' means much if they aren't at the level we need them to be at
    Last edited by JoesphNdo; 04-26-2023 at 03:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    And replace him with? (Servania & BB injured this week btw)
    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    …My response was to somebody saying in essence, MAK has to be on the bench. That means a 3 person mid of Oso, Coello & ?
    Sorry, are we/you sure? Is Servania injured or was he just absent from training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    And replace him with?

    (Servania & BB injured this week btw)
    I was just having a rant, just waiting for MAK to impress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    I was just having a rant, just waiting for MAK to impress.
    Sorry man....its been a few dark days for me around this site. I'm not happy either....we've got, in theory, a good team.

    I'm tired of MLS pundits saying we overspent and have no depth - our depth is decent enough for MLS.

    I'm tired of people saying "X player is crap" and then somebody else saying "y player is crap" when I see so much dang potential if somebody could just unlock the whole thing with a coherent approach.

    I'm tired of being let down by every single CF we've had except Dichio, Koevs, De Ro, Seba & Alitdore.

    I'm tired of people saying "blow it up now" when blowing it up now means blowing it up until 2025.

    I'm tired of watching our defence make the same mistakes every season but 2016-2017.

    I'm tired of people saying "we trust Canadians too much" & others "we don't trust our youth" & I'm most tired of people seeing 1 freaking play (not one game, not one half...one freaking play) go "That guy is crap"

    So I'm both tired of how the team I support is doing & tired of how the conversations are going.


    We need an effin win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derko View Post
    I was just having a rant, just waiting for MAK to impress.
    I watched him at the Atlanta game. He’s a 4/10 player at best

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Sorry man....its been a few dark days for me around this site. I'm not happy either....we've got, in theory, a good team.

    I'm tired of MLS pundits saying we overspent and have no depth - our depth is decent enough for MLS.

    I'm tired of people saying "X player is crap" and then somebody else saying "y player is crap" when I see so much dang potential if somebody could just unlock the whole thing with a coherent approach.

    I'm tired of being let down by every single CF we've had except Dichio, Koevs, De Ro, Seba & Alitdore.

    I'm tired of people saying "blow it up now" when blowing it up now means blowing it up until 2025.

    I'm tired of watching our defence make the same mistakes every season but 2016-2017.

    I'm tired of people saying "we trust Canadians too much" & others "we don't trust our youth" & I'm most tired of people seeing 1 freaking play (not one game, not one half...one freaking play) go "That guy is crap"

    So I'm both tired of how the team I support is doing & tired of how the conversations are going.


    We need an effin win.
    And a convincing win at that, TFC needs to make a statement, in particular at home

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    I find it difficult to get up for TFC games - hurts to say it- I realized this- feeling excitement for team canada play- I used to have this feeling with TFC - but the flame is dying out.

    A convincing win wont make up for the fact TFC has 1 win since last season- It is becoming very sad- not even laughably sad like Armas- this is hurting- we trusted manning twice has failed TFC

    On top of this- I understand players were traded away like POZ to make him happy with his GF - but the guy isnt even in Miami- they shipped players out -looking out for them and their best interest ! what about TFC.

    TFC could have held on to Poz for two games prior to the trade deadline to see the chemistry with LI and FB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post
    We have 6, sure, how many start at a shield chasing team? Maybe Osorio, if he gets back to his best?

    I don't think 'look how many we have' is a defence of the squad assembly if none of them are particularly inspiring
    On a shield chasing team? None. How many have we had since 2017? None.

    Even on 2017 we had Bradley who was good enough. Osorio & Delgado worked but were unremarkable. Vasquez was good too but not durable. Cheyrou the same.

    Oso, MAK, & Servania (plus 2023 VV & Coello) can match up with the latter of that list. We just need another 2017 level DM to start and then plop MB into the old Cheyrou role. That group, with proper tactics & solid full team play, can work good enough to contend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    On a shield chasing team? None. How many have we had since 2017? None.

    Even on 2017 we had Bradley who was good enough. Osorio & Delgado worked but were unremarkable. Vasquez was good too but not durable. Cheyrou the same.

    Oso, MAK, & Servania (plus 2023 VV & Coello) can match up with the latter of that list. We just need another 2017 level DM to start and then plop MB into the old Cheyrou role. That group, with proper tactics & solid full team play, can work good enough to contend.
    Every midfielder we have is a number 8 style player, balanced but not exceptional in any one area.

    We could really use a couple who are exceptional specialists, a DM and an attacker who can come in late and both press high and cause late threats, to keep the other team's pressure as minimal as possible.

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    well it could be worse

    Toronto FC vs New York City FC
    BMO Field (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Armando Villarreal
    AR1: Andrew Bigelow
    AR2: Meghan Mullen
    4TH: Ben Pilgrim
    VAR: Alejandro Mariscal
    AVAR: Tom Supple
    https://proreferees.com/roster/refer...do-villarreal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    This is the best thing that can be said for PRO ref appointments and Apple match commentator crews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    This is the best thing that can be said for PRO ref appointments and Apple match commentator crews.


    .

    I'm just the messenger here but at least it prepares people for the weirdness & the unprofessionalism

 

 

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