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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    This deleted tweet by Apple TV has big "Welcome Diego Forlan" vibes


    So they also announced a Messi documentary, I think. So I think this one was a really cheeky way to stoke hype while also not actually saying what everyone thinks they're saying. I'm surprised they deleted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Whether the league can deal with the BAD refs we currently have & whether people will accept 90k earning kid midfielders being berated for not being where he wants them to be is another matter.
    They won't do anything about the shit refs but I think they'll change roster rules to accomodate him and that will affect all the teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    They won't do anything about the shit refs but I think they'll change roster rules to accomodate him and that will affect all the teams.
    EPL fans moan on the reg about how awful the officiating is and that is supposedly the best league in the world. Not to defend the refs in MLS or anything because they do suck, but the officials will forever be scapegoats for when you don't want to admit your team lost the game. Been that way since I remember watching sports I seriously doubt it ever changes.

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    Inter Miami having themselves a day.


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    And... Here we go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Inter Miami having themselves a day.

    I thought that was a done deal the minute he said MLS, and said as much. If MLS is serious about bringing Messi in they'd demand Miami can Phil Neville and bring in Tata. It just made all the sense in the world. You need to sell Messi the entire package, and would he prefer to play under Tata or Phil Neville?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    EPL fans moan on the reg about how awful the officiating is and that is supposedly the best league in the world. Not to defend the refs in MLS or anything because they do suck, but the officials will forever be scapegoats for when you don't want to admit your team lost the game. Been that way since I remember watching sports I seriously doubt it ever changes.
    Normally yes but I watch a lot of matches of teams and leagues that I don't care about and when I watch random MLS matches during the week I see a lot of really poor calls. Or missed ones. More than I see in other random leagues I watch except for maybe the Saudi league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post
    I thought that was a done deal the minute he said MLS, and said as much. If MLS is serious about bringing Messi in they'd demand Miami can Phil Neville and bring in Tata. It just made all the sense in the world. You need to sell Messi the entire package, and would he prefer to play under Tata or Phil Neville?
    Given that Messi once threatened to retire from the Argentine national team rather than play again for Martino, this one is a little surprising if true. They also worked together at Barcelona and Messi apparently does not like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Given that Messi once threatened to retire from the Argentine national team rather than play again for Martino, this one is a little surprising if true. They also worked together at Barcelona and Messi apparently does not like him.
    You know, I somehow completely forgot about the rumours of them not getting along for some reason! Yeah, you're right, not sure how I forgot that. That does make this one a little more interesting

    As an aside, the transfer status just hit 'here we go' - https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/s...ZMB50BTDgxktcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Given that Messi once threatened to retire from the Argentine national team rather than play again for Martino, this one is a little surprising if true. They also worked together at Barcelona and Messi apparently does not like him.
    This is true but after looking at Neville doing Neville things before getting sacked, I'm sure Tata is looking a lot better than some MLS alternatives.

    Let Messi watch a Bob match to see how MLS legends do it.

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    As unscrupulous as FRomano may be, the interesting thing about some of the recent tweets about Messi, even from the original source yesterday, is the mentions include that 'Messi will play in MLS next season'. Maybe it's just that some of these so called 'Transfer Specialists' are forgetting MLS is actually 'in-season' or, is it that something else is also happening... a fall Barca stint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    As unscrupulous as FRomano may be, the interesting thing about some of the recent tweets about Messi, even from the original source yesterday, is the mentions include that 'Messi will play in MLS next season'. Maybe it's just that some of these so called 'Transfer Specialists' are forgetting MLS is actually 'in-season' or, is it that something else is also happening... a fall Barca stint?
    They don't think about us being in season. They announce things this way often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Normally yes but I watch a lot of matches of teams and leagues that I don't care about and when I watch random MLS matches during the week I see a lot of really poor calls. Or missed ones. More than I see in other random leagues I watch except for maybe the Saudi league.
    The inconsistency here is wild. One guy thinks he’s reffing the SPL, the next guy thinks he’s reffing La Liga. And then you throw in guys like Geiger or Kevin Stott, who live in their own heads and really shouldn’t be officials at all… it’s a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    The inconsistency here is wild. One guy thinks he’s reffing the SPL, the next guy thinks he’s reffing La Liga. And then you throw in guys like Geiger or Kevin Stott, who live in their own heads and really shouldn’t be officials at all… it’s a mess.
    I just can't get over a guy giving a two handed push in the back & a ref looking at it from the angle where he can see the arms extended saying "got ball" - PRO guys can't deal with the speed.

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    You should see the resale prices for the places that miami is playing in late july onwards!

    And also check out the before and after games too. Ticketmaster is handy in this regard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    They won't do anything about the shit refs but I think they'll change roster rules to accomodate him and that will affect all the teams.
    FWIW, posted by jloome, in the 2023 TFC/MLS General Banter Thread yesterday; a start?

    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    ...

    https://proreferees.com/2023/06/06/s...nior-referees/

    Looks like we're getting some more experience at the top of PRO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    I just can't get over a guy giving a two handed push in the back & a ref looking at it from the angle where he can see the arms extended saying "got ball" - PRO guys can't deal with the speed.
    The level of play in this league has accelerated so much over the past decade. This group of officials as a whole was never going to be able to keep up. They need to cut the dead weight.

    And I don’t know what Allan Kelly is doing but if this is the end product of his leadership he should step down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Given that Messi once threatened to retire from the Argentine national team rather than play again for Martino, this one is a little surprising if true. They also worked together at Barcelona and Messi apparently does not like him.
    Some of that reporting is somewhat suspect. Like the 'hate' nonsense between Lollo and Fede. Messi and Tata may have had issues over the courses of their relationship, ups and downs, but IIRC, Messi stood up for him at Barca; to their board and the Blaugrana. Besides, realistically, presented with the option, would you want a Neville or a Bradley mistering you and your club over a Tata? I think not.

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    How can Michael Bradley be the Sergio Busquets of MLS if Sergio Busquets himself is in MLS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    How can Michael Bradley be the Sergio Busquets of MLS if Sergio Busquets himself is in MLS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    If the World Cup was not in the winter, Manning would have seen Argentinians celebrating in the streets and we would have signed Messi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CorrwgBach View Post
    If the World Cup was not in the winter, Manning would have seen Argentinians celebrating in the streets and we would have signed Messi.
    Nah, Miami was always a better choice for latin / spanish players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Some of that reporting is somewhat suspect. Like the 'hate' nonsense between Lollo and Fede. Messi and Tata may have had issues over the courses of their relationship, ups and downs, but IIRC, Messi stood up for him at Barca; to their board and the Blaugrana. Besides, realistically, presented with the option, would you want a Neville or a Bradley mistering you and your club over a Tata? I think not.
    I recall this differently? Didn’t Martino resign despite the board offering him another deal? As I remember the board eventually asked him to stay, but he resigned on principle because he promised the fans the title and they blew it on the last day.

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    The bulk of the Footy Prime crew seem to think he’ll get 20-30 in a full season. Forrest says 10-12 and that MLS is underestimated. Also seemed disappointed we’re still “100%” a retirement league.

    ”And in two years he won’t be scoring any. I don’t know why people think he can play forever.”

    Points out Higuain scored 16 and Miami still couldn’t win, and that adapting his game by walking at the World Cup only worked because “it was Argentina, not Miami” around him.

    Interesting take. I tend to think that Messi at half speed is about equivalent to Seba at full speed, given how he reads the game. But he’s right about the decline at that age being rapid and unpredictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    The bulk of the Footy Prime crew seem to think he’ll get 20-30 in a full season. Forrest says 10-12 and that MLS is underestimated. Also seemed disappointed we’re still “100%” a retirement league.

    ”And in two years he won’t be scoring any. I don’t know why people think he can play forever.”

    Points out Higuain scored 16 and Miami still couldn’t win, and that adapting his game by walking at the World Cup only worked because “it was Argentina, not Miami” around him.

    Interesting take. I tend to think that Messi at half speed is about equivalent to Seba at full speed, given how he reads the game. But he’s right about the decline at that age being rapid and unpredictable.
    I would go more around 10-15 goals.. I don't think he gets 20-30. He plays one touch footy like Insigne so he will need to adjust to players not being in good spots / making runs.

    Now he is obviously better then Insigne but he has lost a lot of his pace (which is huge in MLS).

    Really depends on who Miami puts around him.

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    Can't wait for TFC to take on Miami on February 21 2024. Hope the weather is good! 🤞

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    I recall this differently? Didn’t Martino resign despite the board offering him another deal? As I remember the board eventually asked him to stay, but he resigned on principle because he promised the fans the title and they blew it on the last day.
    Maybe. You might be right. There is lots of static out there. My memory is faulty. Last week, after the first rumours of Tata being an option for MLS/IMCF, I refreshed and read he was upset at his stint at Barca because of a peculiar sentiment, 'my contribution as coach was limited to the management of the team'. I further read and learned this was perhaps in connection to off-field issues of the time, like Neymar or the tragic death of Tito Vilanova. He also supposedly received some harsh press criticism even though he was winning matches but some of the metrics, like possession, were poor. I mean, as Wiki reminds, he did not lose a match in his first 16 and went unbeaten until his 22nd. However as you point out, he did concede the league title on the last day to their bitter rivals and did not win enough major trophies.
    Last edited by Mr. Inbetween; 06-07-2023 at 01:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Can't wait for TFC to take on Miami on February 21 2024. Hope the weather is good! 爛
    I hope its a blizzard! Messi needs full the MLS experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorDingDong View Post
    I hope its a blizzard! Messi needs full the MLS experience.
    I didn't say what I meant by good, lol!

 

 

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