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    Quote Originally Posted by CorrwgBach View Post
    That salary dump makes an Insigne 3/4's of a Messi.

    Glad the person who made that deal is no longer around, oh wait ....
    Messi's is only half a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    insigne's guaranteed compensation was updated to 15.4 M in the latest MLSPA salary dump.

    deary me.
    Yeah, it sounds like someone didn’t like that number the first time it was disclosed so they magically reduced the number to 8. Now it’s back again.

    Easily the worst contract in MLS history. Nothing else even comes close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    I do wonder if TFC would turn it down. Apparently Juventus wants a short-term loan only. Don't see much point if we're not shedding the salary. DP loans in MLS open up the slot, but not the money. And short term wouldn't do anything either way.

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    I never really care about DP pay - DP performance is more important to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    I do wonder if TFC would turn it down. Apparently Juventus wants a short-term loan only. Don't see much point if we're not shedding the salary. DP loans in MLS open up the slot, but not the money. And short term wouldn't do anything either way.
    I’d do it. Assuming whatever Juventus pays goes to us, we get the added benefit of having him play in a more visible place which could increase his value.

    Now that cuts both ways, and he could just as easily tank and leave us stuck, but that sort of appears like the station we’re at currently

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    I never really care about DP pay - DP performance is more important to me.
    They are separate things, sure, but any fan has to care a lot about DP pay.

    Signing guys well makes them assets. Signing them poorly makes them liabilities. We are getting a live demo of that. We can't move our DPs and therefore our DP slots are "wasted".
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Messi's is only half a season.
    No it's not, they release annualized salaries.

    In reality though he is making way more through apple tv signup bonuses and other mechanisms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    No it's not, they release annualized salaries.

    In reality though he is making way more through apple tv signup bonuses and other mechanisms.
    FWIW, agree; correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    They are separate things, sure, but any fan has to care a lot about DP pay. Signing guys well makes them assets. Signing them poorly makes them liabilities. We are getting a live demo of that. We can't move our DPs and therefore our DP slots are "wasted".
    Fair assessment. Lollo's MLS 'Guaranteed Compensation' by TFC may be based but it's lack of business creativity/savvy is astonishing! IMO, MLS shares some of the blame besides TFC/MLSE. This detail aspect is 'the' ground for BM's immediate 'bankers box walk-out' dismissal; it's inexcusable. That sort of MLS DP contract total amount has to be segmented between GC, say two thirds for generous measure, to then include bonus pay packages tied to performance/goal metrics; say one third.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    I speculated earlier that he might try broadcasting. He has very high name recognition in the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Wouldn't surprise me to see him on the Apple MLS Wrap Up panel next season as an analyst.
    IMO, in the short-term, he is off next week after TFC's season ends immediately to Norway to join his father as an assistant/understudy; maybe even with his family. He'll recharge or reset mentally, a vacay 'the Bradley way', while gaining any coaching badge practical experience and hours. I would not be surprised if he is standing beside his father before the end of this month when Stabaek meets Sarpsborg and until the end of their season; likely at the beginning of December.

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    A short-term loan to Juve could be good, if it helps show he can still play at a high level (when surrounded by teammates), could make him more appealing to Euro/Arab clubs compared to saying he struggles in MLS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    They are separate things, sure, but any fan has to care a lot about DP pay. Signing guys well makes them assets. Signing them poorly makes them liabilities. We are getting a live demo of that. We can't move our DPs and therefore our DP slots are "wasted".
    True. However, if the DP's really are unmovable assets, maybe double down? Understanding Lukaku is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    No it's not, they release annualized salaries.

    In reality though he is making way more through apple tv signup bonuses and other mechanisms.
    Ah, ok. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    True. However, if the DP's really are unmovable assets, maybe double down?

    I hear Al Hilal might be looking for a Left Winger with some brand recognition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmancan View Post
    I hear Al Hilal might be looking for a Left Winger with some brand recognition.
    Seba Giovinco -> Juventus -> Toronto -> Al Hilal
    FedBernadeschi -> Juventus -> Toronto -> ______

    The pattern is set

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    Last edited by rydermike; 10-20-2023 at 07:34 AM. Reason: resize

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmancan View Post
    I hear Al Hilal might be looking for a Left Winger with some brand recognition.
    IIRC, there was subsequent Italian footy media rumour that suggested Lollo turned down a KSA/Qatari offer.

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