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    A lotta ifs ands or buts for end of today... Chucky to The Black & Gold, then Fede to The Partenopei?
    Last edited by Mr. Inbetween; 08-02-2023 at 10:25 AM.

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    I believe the deadline is just for inbound transfers. Fede could move later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stress View Post
    I believe the deadline is just for inbound transfers. Fede could move later.
    Yeah only inbound. Lots of time for outbounds but it'd be nice if they started sooner than later.

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    Oh God no Bernadeschi to Napoli , as a Napoli fan please no , after what he has done here at TFC have lost all respect for this poser , send him to a serie C team he might be able to play there .

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    Moreover, while I’m on this rant the fact the a Conway is still on the coaching staff after basically ruining the careers of how many keepers now ? How a guy like Bono a young keeper goes from winning an MLS Cup and almost a Champions League to the state he was once he left TFC shows you all you need to know why this club is where it is today !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan2 View Post
    Oh God no Bernadeschi to Napoli , as a Napoli fan please no , after what he has done here at TFC have lost all respect for this poser , send him to a serie C team he might be able to play there .
    Why would Napoli want him?

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    If Napoli want him, that is their business, NOT ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan2 View Post
    Oh God no as a Napoli fan please no , after what he has done here at TFC have lost all respect for this poser , send him to a serie C team he might be able to play there .
    I was waiting for a Partenopeo to chime in. Seems Napoli owner ADL was interested last year as well, tires were kicked, then passed on due to likely/wanted wage; he's stingy. Fede followed the money. A second go around may be happening given their Lozano circumstance...

    Full Article:
    https://www.dailynews24.it/napoli-be...medium=twitter

    Translated Segment:
    'With Lozano's farewell, now, the footballer would have proposed himself again to the Azzurri.
    The former Juve and Fiorentina would like to return to Italy to demonstrate all his quality.
    According to market indiscretion, Bernardeschi also confessed to Lorenzo Insigne,
    a former blue captain who now plays in Toronto, that the idea of ​​playing at Maradona excites him.
    At the moment there does not seem to be any negotiation,
    however, President De Laurentiis has always liked the offensive winger from Carrara.
    The only problem could be the engagement.
    The footballer would be willing to reduce the salary of about six million received in Toronto but not to go below four million per season.'

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    Laryea to Whitecaps smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Karpf View Post
    Laryea to Whitecaps smh.
    They're gonna make him a DP.

    Honestly go ahead lol

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    Well, that Richie news is crazy. I bet they use him more as an attacker. And yeah, he'll be a DP.

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    Whitecaps saving TFC from Manning. Phew. Wish Laryea the best, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Tfc doing this would have made an already tough rebuild impossible.

    In fact can't see any situation where this makes sense.

    Laryea is very good but if he's the face of the franchise DP you're gonna be incredibly mediocre.

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    I agree, DP is an overreach. This appears to be positioning ahead of the 26 WC. Domestic players on the nat team will be highly marketable and desirable for clubs. Look for us to sign someone within the squad down the road. Osorio borderline for the next cycle IMO.

    Nonetheless, seeing your best player on the season suit up for another team is a bit discouraging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Nonetheless, seeing your best player on the season suit up for another team is a bit discouraging.
    Not for me. Minus a buyout or moving Bernadeschi/Insigne, this is the move I wanted to see. I was worried we would do our usual stupid and overpay to keep him for fan service insead of trying to build a proper roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Well, that Richie news is crazy. I bet they use him more as an attacker. And yeah, he'll be a DP.
    Loan only until Dec 31st?

    Man, I get that sense Richie didn't have many options / interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorDingDong View Post
    Loan only until Dec 31st?

    Man, I get that sense Richie didn't have many options / interest.
    They've committed to buying him and making him a DP.

    Reported as planning to make him the "face of the franchise".

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    They've committed to buying him and making him a DP.

    Reported as planning to make him the "face of the franchise".
    That's great for Richie and fam. Hopefully he gets paid.

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    I understand and am on board with why we didn't re-sign him, but I'm pissed that he's going to Vancouver. He's been our best player.

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    I'm happy for Ritchie. I'm also glad that we didn't sign him, especially as a DP. Not worth it for a RB.

    Best of luck to him. It's time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    I'm happy for Ritchie. I'm also glad that we didn't sign him, especially as a DP. Not worth it for a RB.

    Best of luck to him. It's time to move on.
    If they're really giving him DP money then more power, I guess. They have the front line to benefit from it.

    Richie is one of the best backs in MLS. But is he going to create dramatically more scoring chances than Julian Gressel or Mo Farsi? Probably not, and no one in their right mind would make them a DP. Ultimately, a wingback only spends a portion of his time on the overlap or trying to penetrate along the goal line, and it's a hell of a luxury to pay a primarily two-way defender top money.

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    I'd be really curious if this is Manning suddenly, after 5 years, actually learning from his past mistakes and saying "you know, this will make people happy with me in the short term but hurt us in the long term and that's not good"

    Or he was just told by MLSE that he won't be given the money to match the Vancouver offer

    Either way, it's a pity it's an MLS team but, Canada aside, it's not an Eastern rival and that's a good thing and mostly I'm just glad we didn't do something as short sighted as make him a DP, despite him being a genuinely really good player at this level

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    it's a hell of a luxury to pay a primarily two-way defender top money.
    And his defending and positioning are not DP quality.

    We dodge a Manning sized bullet on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post
    I'd be really curious if this is Manning suddenly, after 5 years, actually learning from his past mistakes and saying "you know, this will make people happy with me in the short term but hurt us in the long term and that's not good"
    I think Hernandez is more in charge of things like this and I have a feeling he isn't a moron like Manning so I would hesitate to say Manning learned anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorDingDong View Post
    That's great for Richie and fam. Hopefully he gets paid.
    Yeah it's a great move for him.

    Just glad it's not us overpaying absurdly for him.

    Are we finally starting to learn from past mistakes?

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    Staring at my watch currently… buyout or Diomande would be good enough. Give us something…

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    Yeah it's a great move for him.

    Just glad it's not us overpaying absurdly for him.

    Are we finally starting to learn from past mistakes?
    Getting into the hard, harsh business of mistakes is kind of important right now. I sent my team contact a suggestion today that if we're cleaning house, they need to start looking at their existing staff, particularly scouting, and what they've actually produced. They've all been there a minimum of three years, are all -- to my eyes -- pretty underqualified for their roles. Given how little they've contributed, that's probably not surprising.

    But I suspect general hiring policies have revolved around getting people who seemed easy to work with and likeable, rather than people who are aggressively goal-oriented and self-directed to improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Getting into the hard, harsh business of mistakes is kind of important right now. I sent my team contact a suggestion today that if we're cleaning house, they need to start looking at their existing staff, particularly scouting, and what they've actually produced. They've all been there a minimum of three years, are all -- to my eyes -- pretty underqualified for their roles. Given how little they've contributed, that's probably not surprising.

    But I suspect general hiring policies have revolved around getting people who seemed easy to work with and likeable, rather than people who are aggressively goal-oriented and self-directed to improve.
    I’d like to know how the existing scouting staff was incorporated to the decision process before making any harsh judgments.

    It strikes me that people like Bradley aren’t terribly good at listening to their subordinates. Or, they come from a time when a MLS Front Office staff was like 3 guys sitting in a room together shooting the shit and so having multiple teams of people is beyond their management capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Getting into the hard, harsh business of mistakes is kind of important right now. I sent my team contact a suggestion today that if we're cleaning house, they need to start looking at their existing staff, particularly scouting, and what they've actually produced. They've all been there a minimum of three years, are all -- to my eyes -- pretty underqualified for their roles. Given how little they've contributed, that's probably not surprising.

    But I suspect general hiring policies have revolved around getting people who seemed easy to work with and likeable, rather than people who are aggressively goal-oriented and self-directed to improve.
    yep, and so many moves recently have been short term moves to placate the fanbase rather than ones with long term squad building in mind.

    that would have been adding laryea as a DP.

 

 

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