Wow, and if that pace holds up, only two respondents will have been somewhat accurate.Originally Posted by Initial B
70+ Points: Legendary Team!!!
65-69 Points: Supporter Shield Winners!!
60-64 Points: Conference Champions!
55-59 Points: Elite Team
50-54 Points: Solid Playoff Team
45-49 Points: On the Playoff Bubble
39-44 Points: Also Rans
33-38 Points: Lower Table Team
26-32 Points: Cellar Dwellers
25 points or less: "We're the worst team in the world..."
Wow, and if that pace holds up, only two respondents will have been somewhat accurate.
We are now at the 3/4-point of the season and it would appear that we are on track to end up with 25 points. "Worst Team in the World" Tier.
Never, EVER, did I imagine a season as bad as this one turned out to be considering the roster we had at the start of the season.
If Seba is being considered for a nostalgia lap this season so should Koevermans. He comes off the pitch to a press conference and he says “I thought I had played for the worst team in the world but this TFC squad is now the worst team in the world.” 🤣
Name him an interim manager.
Just do a rotating match to match interim manager so we can squeeze the maximum allowance of nostalgia out of these last 9 matches. Get Seba out there for one, DeRo, Armando Cooper, whoever. What we have now is a failure so why not just sink into pure meme-ness until oblivion.
You know who should really be the interim manager? Vazquez
He would definitely be better than Dunfield but for maximum chaos, failure, and TFCness it really should have been Michael Bradley.
I want to offer my apologies to the MLS pundits who predicted us out of the playoffs at the start and who I thought were dead wrong. I think we're worse than even they imagined.
Lol. I want to know why the one person voted less than 25 pts, because that's where we're headed.
Last edited by Richard; 09-20-2023 at 09:48 PM.
The season, mercifully, is over.
34 games.
22 points.
Lowest club points ever.
Highest MLS payroll ever.
Manning can't, CAN'T, be here next year.
I have no other words, so I'll let Matt Doyle leave them for me.
It’s hard to imagine a more catastrophic season.
None of the high-upside youngsters developed. None of the imports impressed. Neither of the remaining club legends, Jonathan Osorio and Michael Bradley, could do a damn thing to prevent this team from having what I think is the worst season in club history (apologies to the 2012 group, but relative to expectations, 2023 is worse).
American Soccer Analysis has the Reds dead last in the value of passes they received this year, and one of the worst teams in their database going back a decade. That matches the eye test.
There’s constantly been room to maneuver over the past few years and TFC, with Manning’s hand firmly on the wheel as per reporting from The Athletic, have gone wrong at every turn.
I'm the one who put "39-44," then wondered if I was being too pessimistic since nearly everyone thought we'd do better.
Still I thought it would take at least a season to get significantly better because of melding time, despite the seemingly elite DP signings, so that's why I picked what I did.
Turns out I was wayyyy to optimistic at just missing the payoffs. Kudos to the one individual who picked 25 or less.
Turns out our team was horribly unbalanced and that both DPs were outscored by an Orlando kid that we could have signed cheap if we didn't trade our #3 pick.
MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto
1. Michael Bradley
2. Jozy Altidore
3. David Beckham
4. Carlos Vela
5. Lorenzo Insigne
6. Sebastien Giovinco
What is this list? (No cheating if you saw it in the Athletic)
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
Oldest DPs/former DPs?
Most amount of money ever spent on a DP over the life of their contract.
Close.
MLS All-time Lifetime earnings leaderboard.
1. Michael Bradley 44.1M
2. Jozy Altidore 40.2M
3. David Beckham 36.5M
4. Carlos Vela 32.3M
5. Lorenzo Insigne 29.4M
6. Sebastien Giovinco 28.5M
We could spend a long time discussing this chart.
Last edited by ensco; 10-22-2023 at 08:27 PM.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
That is good context on our ownership. For all the criticism of MLSE as this entity holding us back, and I'm not fan of theirs, there literally isn't a single ownership group in all of MLS that would have spent the money they spent on us with so little in return. Not one. Any other owner would slash our budgets if we had one.
I worry we completely fucked up the once in a lifetime opportunity and will never get it again, though. Hopefully that part is wrong but I just can't imagine any rational argument they would have to continue spending money like they have done.
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