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    Quote Originally Posted by section 223 View Post
    fans make michael out to be a hero for this dp to tam wage reduction but the truth is that no team on earth was paying michael bradley 2 million a year to play soccer.(correction maybe saudi arabia)
    ^^^^^^^^^ this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    So far this one would rank as a bad signing for me. At his new wages he looked much, much worse than before. Lots of our 4 goals against were from him being lost on his side and not covering for our also lost CBs.

    But the team was poor. If he remains and refinds his form next season then he is a good signing but he has to consistently be 2020-2021 Richie to be worth that money.
    Yeah, I miss the old Richie who would take guys on and get in the box and cause havoc...drawing penalties and getting assists and occasionally even getting a goal or two.

    Not sure what happened to him. Was good at the start but then tailed off.

    Am a big fan of his though, hope he turns it around. We need that RB spot to be solid.

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    https://twitter.com/MLSTransfers/sta...75819100270592

    apparently teams interested in Justen Glad from RSL.

    be shocked if we weren't one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Fans make Michael out to be a hero for this DP to TAM wage reduction but the truth is that no team on earth was paying Michael Bradley 2 million a year to play soccer.(correction maybe Saudi Arabia)
    I thought the situation was Michael and TFC had a contract to pay him $2 million and he agreed to re-negotiate a reduction to TAM. Is that wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    I thought the situation was Michael and TFC had a contract to pay him $2 million and he agreed to re-negotiate a reduction to TAM. Is that wrong?
    Michael Bradley has been paid 1.6 million or maximum Tam the last two years, he is in the top 10 percentile in terms of wages in the league, not a chance in hell anyone out there can rate him even close to top 10 in overall quality in the league, complete waste of resources by MLSE, Iím certain Jonathan Osorio goes home every night and says to himself ďMichael Bradley making twice what I am, I gotta get the hell out of here ď

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Michael Bradley has been paid 1.6 million or maximum Tam the last two years, he is in the top 10 percentile in terms of wages in the league, not a chance in hell anyone out there can rate him even close to top 10 in overall quality in the league, complete waste of resources by MLSE, I’m certain Jonathan Osorio goes home every night and says to himself “Michael Bradley making twice what I am, I gotta get the hell out of here “
    Did he not voluntarily re-negotiate a contract that was guaranteed to pay him $2 million to a lower amount? That's my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Michael Bradley has been paid 1.6 million or maximum Tam the last two years, he is in the top 10 percentile in terms of wages in the league, not a chance in hell anyone out there can rate him even close to top 10 in overall quality in the league, complete waste of resources by MLSE, I’m certain Jonathan Osorio goes home every night and says to himself “Michael Bradley making twice what I am, I gotta get the hell out of here “
    MB makes about $500K more than Osorio right now and no matter what, he managed to stay on the field.

    He is probably a top 50 paid player in MLS and tied with a large bunch of players at $1.6M but there's a lot of loafers like Costa & Hunou making near double what MB gets. I get it, he is past his prime but you make it out like we gave a max TAM to Achara or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    https://twitter.com/MLSTransfers/sta...75819100270592

    apparently teams interested in Justen Glad from RSL.

    be shocked if we weren't one of them.
    This is the kind of guy we should be all over. Montreal has done really well identifying and trading for young-ish MLS players and Glad definitely fits the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Michael Bradley has been paid 1.6 million or maximum Tam the last two years, he is in the top 10 percentile in terms of wages in the league, not a chance in hell anyone out there can rate him even close to top 10 in overall quality in the league, complete waste of resources by MLSE, I’m certain Jonathan Osorio goes home every night and says to himself “Michael Bradley making twice what I am, I gotta get the hell out of here “
    Exactly. And make no mistake about it, Oso is pissed seeing MB continue to get paid way more than him when Oso is much better and younger than him. And now is looking to try and move overseas and/or somewhere else in the league if he doesn't get this last big payday. Apparently Manning/BB/MB don't want to pay Oso what he deserves for all his years of loyal service and great production and that's why Oso is playing hardball now. Good for him, he has to take care of #1.

    PS brother, you need to post alot more. Love your posts, great knowledge and you tell it like it is. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Did he not voluntarily re-negotiate a contract that was guaranteed to pay him $2 million to a lower amount? That's my question.
    This organization foolishly put a clause in Michael Bradley’s contract that if we would have won MLS cup on 2019 Bradley would be paid DP wages for the next three years, thankfully we lost that game , so the fine gents running this team gave Bradley maximum TAM while pissing off Osorio who’s on 700,000

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    so the fine gents running this team gave Bradley maximum TAM while pissing off Osorio who’s on 700,000


    Jonathan Osorio M 30 CA $1,000,000 $1,026,250


    Michael Bradley M 35 US $1,500,000 $1,500,000

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    Do we have a list of the current salaries? Please and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    This organization foolishly put a clause in Michael Bradley’s contract that if we would have won MLS cup on 2019 Bradley would be paid DP wages for the next three years, thankfully we lost that game , so the fine gents running this team gave Bradley maximum TAM while pissing off Osorio who’s on 700,000
    Ok, so he didn't take a voluntary pay cut on a guaranteed contract? That's all I've been asking. The narrative that went around is that he did. I honestly don't know if it's true or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hala Hrvatska View Post
    Do we have a list of the current salaries? Please and thank you.
    It's been out since summer by the MLSPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    This organization foolishly put a clause in Michael Bradleyís contract that if we would have won MLS cup on 2019 Bradley would be paid DP wages for the next three years, thankfully we lost that game , so the fine gents running this team gave Bradley maximum TAM while pissing off Osorio whoís on 700,000
    Holy fucking shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    MB makes about $500K more than Osorio right now and no matter what, he managed to stay on the field.

    He is probably a top 50 paid player in MLS and tied with a large bunch of players at $1.6M but there's a lot of loafers like Costa & Hunou making near double what MB gets. I get it, he is past his prime but you make it out like we gave a max TAM to Achara or something.
    When Bradley signed for maximum TAM in 2019 Oso was on 700,000 his wages yes are at 1 million now, as far as Bradley staying on the field, what does he contribute? 34 games played goal and assist totals are woeful and has been posted by my friend Hala countless mistakes leading to direct goals against. Look at this teams record when Oso is not in the lineup itís dismal. Oso should be on maximum TAM and Bradley should be on the bench coming in when the game has already been decided making about $150,000. That would be fair to me.

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    Honestly I would rather pay Oso the Bradley money.

    If we’re so tight with the cap because we need to spend on other positions they should buy out Bradley and give Oso max TAM.

    Oso isn’t worth DP money, but he is 100% a max TAM player if there ever was one.

    Note: This obviously a very unique situation, but if they don’t sign Oso because they can’t afford him and Bradley is still eating stupid wages I will call for BB’s head (which I’m holding off on because I actually think he could be the perfect *coach*).

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    Looking at our salary page, I am not sure $358K on O'Neill as a #3 CB (at best) is good use of cap space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Looking at our salary page, I am not sure $358K on O'Neill as a #3 CB (at best) is good use of cap space.
    I donít mind it. Itís a different league these days and knowing the first guy off the bench isnít a tire fire makes a lot of sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Honestly I would rather pay Oso the Bradley money.

    If weíre so tight with the cap because we need to spend on other positions they should buy out Bradley and give Oso max TAM.

    Oso isnít worth DP money, but he is 100% a max TAM player if there ever was one.

    Note: This obviously a very unique situation, but if they donít sign Oso because they canít afford him and Bradley is still eating stupid wages I will call for BBís head (which Iím holding off on because I actually think he could be the perfect *coach*).
    Iím sure Oso will be offered max TAM wages, if he accepts, thatís another question, but getting Michael Bradleyís contract down to league minimum should be one of the top priorities this off season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    This organization foolishly put a clause in Michael Bradley’s contract that if we would have won MLS cup on 2019 Bradley would be paid DP wages for the next three years, thankfully we lost that game , so the fine gents running this team gave Bradley maximum TAM while pissing off Osorio who’s on 700,000
    This is not true at all. It was a one year option at DP wages not three.
    The vast majority of commenters on this forum were in favour of the MB TAM extension.
    There were rumblings that other teams would be interested in Bradley on a low DP salary.
    It has never been reported outside of random posters on this forum that Oso is upset that Bradley makes more money than him.

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    Dear Twitter gods, please give us an actual rumor.

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    Here's Kloke in 2019 saying that from conversations around the league, expect plenty of interest from other MLS teams if Bradley was willing to come in at $1.5M (max TAM) https://theathletic.com/1079562/2019...th-toronto-fc/

    Here's Tenorio saying TFC hold an option on Bradley for 2020 that is automatically exercised if TFC win the 2019 MLS cup (note - it doesn't say what the salary would have been, but we can assume it was DP level). https://theathletic.com/1108954/2019...-negotiations/

    Here's Kloke saying it's a 3 year deal with a club option for 2023 (that was apparently exercised already) https://theathletic.com/1454970/2019...sense-for-tfc/

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    Can we have a michael Bradley thread and not do that bickering here here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    Can we have a michael Bradley thread and not do that bickering here here?
    Yep, last time I checked the thread title wasn't "Let's attack Michael Bradley."

    On the contract point, club options are mutual under FIFA regs (which is why Camillo Sanvezzo couldn't be forced to stay in Vancouver). So the club can't mutually exercise it, giving Bradley the opportunity to turn it down if he wants. I know, that's unlikely to happen.

    I'm wondering who we're eyeing in-league, as Manning seemed to stress going after "Drew Moor and Stephen Beitashour" types.
    Last edited by jloome; 10-13-2022 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Dear Twitter gods, please give us an actual rumor.
    I wonder how much of the agent leak stuff is aimed at getting deals done quicker or warding off competition. I do imagine we'll see a lot more when the final contract release day comes up next month. Stuff will start strategically flying at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Yep, last time I checked the thread title wasn't "Let's attack Michael Bradley."

    On the contract point, club options are mutual under FIFA regs (which is why Camillo Sanvezzo couldn't be forced to stay in Vancouver). So the club can't mutually exercise it, giving Bradley the opportunity to turn it down if he wants. I know, that's unlikely to happen.

    I'm wondering who we're eyeing in-league, as Manning seemed to stress going after "Drew Moor and Stephen Beitashour" types.
    I thought the point of contention with Camilo and others was MULTIPLE one year extensions not that they had to be mutually agree upon when exercised. I think those are definitely a no-no under labour laws and FIFA doesnít permit them either

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    MB is the focal point of any offseason build.

    He either reduced his role, changes his role or the team continues to revolve all attacks starting with him.

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    Michael Bradley is not the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC/Everton View Post
    Michael Bradley is not the problem.
    As much as I hope we sign a couple of effective central midfielders in the offseason, we need a whole new defense and a new goalie before anything.

    I do think the system we currently seem to usually play opens us up to a lot of odd-man breaks, and we would do well to sign a defensive midfielder, a specialist who sits back there rather than a three-way pivot.

 

 

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