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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    FWIW!

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    Now suggesting Ayo to a Western Conference team in a 3-way trade.

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    From the same poster... this seems to be connected?

    He's s troll trying to be funny parodying "in the know" accounts.
    Last edited by leedsandTFC; 12-09-2022 at 05:11 AM.

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    was thinking about this and re-signing osorio and adding vasquez would make a lot of sense (assuming reasonable numbers, of course).

    between them you can basically get a full season worth of minutes at a high level in the creative midfield position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    was thinking about this and re-signing osorio and adding vasquez would make a lot of sense (assuming reasonable numbers, of course).

    between them you can basically get a full season worth of minutes at a high level in the creative midfield position.
    After suffering through last year do we really want a central midfield duo of VV and Bradley when Oso goes down to injury which you can bank on

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    Quote Originally Posted by los sonadores View Post
    Thatís one of the dumbest comments Iíve seen on here in quite a while.
    Same people who think itís dumb are the same people who thought he was going to Europe at 30 with a brinks truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    After suffering through last year do we really want a central midfield duo of VV and Bradley when Oso goes down to injury which you can bank on
    Osorio isn't particularly injury prone. The one significant injury he's had with the concussion is a bit unpredictable but sounds like he's through the worst of that.

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    Btw Hedges reportedly wants 3 guaranteed years on his next contract, and the Quakes may be the only ones willing to offer that, so I really hope we have plan B and C lined up for all our prospective signings.

    I very much doubt we do but itís that hope that kills you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Osorio isn't particularly injury prone. The one significant injury he's had with the concussion is a bit unpredictable but sounds like he's through the worst of that.
    He has missed at least 10 games in each of his past 4 seasons. Thatís worth mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    Btw Hedges reportedly wants 3 guaranteed years on his next contract, and the Quakes may be the only ones willing to offer that, so I really hope we have plan B and C lined up for all our prospective signings.

    I very much doubt we do but it’s that hope that kills you
    I doubt we're the only ones that thought of having a plan B or C. Callens is still out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    He has missed at least 10 games in each of his past 4 seasons. That’s worth mention.
    Some of that was not being a starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    He has missed at least 10 games in each of his past 4 seasons. That’s worth mention.
    He missed 9 MLS games in 2019, 6 MLS games in 2020, 10 in 2021. Shrug.

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    Not according to MLS website, although in fairness now that I think of it, one of those years wasnít 34 games when we had the Mickey Mouse Cup etc.

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    vasquez was had fairly good availability last season.

    if you can rotate him with osorio during fixture congestion can probably limit injuries for both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    Not according to MLS website, although in fairness now that I think of it, one of those years wasn’t 34 games when we had the Mickey Mouse Cup etc.
    According to the MLS website....
    2022 - TFC played 34 regular season games, Oso appeared in 23. 11 games missed
    2021 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 24, 10 games missed.
    2020 - TFC 23 games (including the MLS is Back tourney round robin games), Oso in 17 games. 6 games missed
    2019 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 24 (plus one game on the bench - I had counted this above). 9 games not in the lineup, 10 games not played.
    2018 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 30, 4 games missed

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    According to the MLS website....
    2022 - TFC played 34 regular season games, Oso appeared in 23. 11 games missed
    2021 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 24, 10 games missed.
    2020 - TFC 23 games (including the MLS is Back tourney round robin games), Oso in 17 games. 6 games missed
    2019 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 24 (plus one game on the bench - I had counted this above). 9 games not in the lineup, 10 games not played.
    2018 - TFC 34 games, Oso in 30, 4 games missed
    Exactly. The data shows Oso missing 25-30% of matches over the past 4 years, since 2019. This is a key metric to consider, and it doesnít generally get better over 30.

    This is why you have folks asking the question of whether we want our midfield options to include all 3 of Bradley VV and Oso. Itís a valid concern for a max tam deal. Insanity for DP etc. We absolutely cannot have big money tied up in the infirmary, regardless the name on the back of the shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    Exactly. The data shows Oso missing 25-30% of matches over the past 4 years, since 2019. This is a key metric to consider, and it doesn’t generally get better over 30.

    This is why you have folks asking the question of whether we want our midfield options to include all 3 of Bradley VV and Oso. It’s a valid concern for a max tam deal. Insanity for DP etc. We absolutely cannot have big money tied up in the infirmary, regardless the name on the back of the shirt.
    You said though that he missed "at least 10 games in each of the past 4 seasons". Which is not true and I was debating that point.
    I agree with your point about the injuries being a concern, especially as he gets older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
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    From the same poster... this seems to be connected?

    Lol not me getting actually excited for this.

    Btw I'm worried about the Reynolds thing. Kid has never played more than 20 games in his 4 year career. Buckets of potential, but maybe risky to rely on him without having another fullback with the talent to actually start.

    Insigne's age contextualizes all of our moves in my opinion. He's 31, so it's really a win now situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    ... Insigne's age contextualizes all of our moves in my opinion. He's 31, so it's really a win now situation.
    For now, he is the eye of any TFC roster storm.
    Keep disseminating this wisdom.

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    Yes! Yes! Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    Same people who think itís dumb are the same people who thought he was going to Europe at 30 with a brinks truck.
    Taking a Brinks truck to Europe and captaining TFC (which heís already done) are totally different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    For now, he is the eye of any TFC roster storm.
    Keep disseminating this wisdom.
    Absolutely, that's why we have to give him the best pieces to succeed ASAP imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by los sonadores View Post
    Taking a Brinks truck to Europe and captaining TFC (which he’s already done) are totally different things.
    Not really captained TFC properly just worn the armband.

    I've turned opinion on Oso getting max TAM. He's a known quantity, perfect fit and if you're going to give that money to anyone it should be Oso. Fair gamble to give him that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Not really captained TFC properly just worn the armband.

    I've turned opinion on Oso getting max TAM. He's a known quantity, perfect fit and if you're going to give that money to anyone it should be Oso. Fair gamble to give him that money.
    This is a good point. We know what Oso is and likely who he'll continue to be. If we go out and get someone new, they could have the influence of Victor Vazquez or they could end up being a flop like Ager Aketxe.

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    The captain thing is vastly overrated. Oso is and would be a core part of veteran leadership.
    "There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    The captain thing is vastly overrated. Oso is and would be a core part of veteran leadership.
    Yeah that's true but it's more symbolic than anything really meaningful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    The captain thing is vastly overrated. Oso is and would be a core part of veteran leadership.
    Thatís very true.

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    Well, so much for a flurry of big news today. I hate being a pessimist but itís hard to have faith in a Manning led FO. I donít think the trauma response from the Curtis years will wane until there some concrete proof of a complete team in the making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamp Berg View Post
    Well, so much for a flurry of big news today. I hate being a pessimist but it’s hard to have faith in a Manning led FO. I don’t think the trauma response from the Curtis years will wane until there some concrete proof of a complete team in the making.
    The faithful are being tested.
    World Cup or not, expecting activity; action not rumour.
    Hopefully, a few announcements by next week.
    Otherwise, if we enter the typical season holidays break in silence...
    I will be very concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamp Berg View Post
    Well, so much for a flurry of big news today. I hate being a pessimist but it’s hard to have faith in a Manning led FO. I don’t think the trauma response from the Curtis years will wane until there some concrete proof of a complete team in the making.
    I don’t think it's Manning that is the problem, if there is a problem (big if, we don’t know yet). BB is in charge now.

    If we have a problem, I would guess it's because we have all the ingredients for certain kinds of predictable problems: the whole MB/BB thing (it's just unhealthy), the fear that Insigne and his entourage will be calling all shots (no getting around this, guys making 50% more than anyone in their league become part of management of their teams in all sports…)
    "There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff

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    I doubt we'd get any signing news on a world cup day. There's breaks between stages now. Any upcoming news will be on the 11th or 12th not today or tomorrow since it's QF days. Then not on the SF days of 13 or 14 etc.

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    Monday or Thursday....

 

 

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