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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    This is where I am at. Score these two, a free agent or two from the MLS market, and wait until July for that final DP piece in midfield.
    Ok with this too.
    Sure I can wait... hoping, if... the DP midfield piece is a MB regista type replacement of... say... Toni Kroos or Jorginho caliber.
    TFC best be already prepping to work on that sort of pre-contract offer effort. With no transfer fee; yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    offering a player who has only been fit to start 57% of games in last two seasons max tam is suicide.

    i seriously wonder if people have been paying attention the last few years when we offered players big contracts based on loyalty and it's killed us.

    and i'm a huge fan of MB, but that contract at that price should have been a year shorter.
    Bill Manning mentioned that our next DP will be relatively low cost, I am of the opinion that we let the often injured Oso leave and Bob has a heart to heart with Michael and recommends that he take early retirement, that frees up over 3 million this year in wages and enables us to bring in a fairly decent DP rather then the promising young unknown DP that you all know they are bringing us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Bill Manning mentioned that our next DP will be relatively low cost, I am of the opinion that we let the often injured Oso leave and Bob has a heart to heart with Michael and recommends that he take early retirement, that frees up over 3 million this year in wages and enables us to bring in a fairly decent DP rather then the promising young unknown DP that you all know they are bringing us.
    To be fair, he never said "low cost" he just said "not Insigne level" .

    Insigne is 14 million a year - so maybe Berna level? 6-7 million.

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    https://twitter.com/Beezersun/status...37867619487744

    "Told that #TFCLive still in discussions with Victor Vazquez and Matt Hedges"

    if we could get these two deals done for 1-1.2 M would be very good.



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    Does everyone remember when there were rumours we were after Alexis MacAllister? Too bad that never panned out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    Does everyone remember when there were rumours we were after Alexis MacAllister? Too bad that never panned out.
    Was just thinking about that! From memory those rumours were strong and persistent so it's likely we at least came close. What a coup that would have been

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    they bid 4.5 M for him apparently.

    oh well

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    I'd prefer TFC focus on Hedges right now if I had to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    I'd prefer TFC focus on Hedges right now if I had to choose.
    Me too. I was actually pretty pleased after yesterday passed and VV wasn't signed.

    Just when you start to think the shadow 2017 is fading into the distance, boom, it's back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Me too. I was actually pretty pleased after yesterday passed and VV wasn't signed.

    Just when you start to think the shadow 2017 is fading into the distance, boom, it's back.
    Until the last player from that squad that isn't Eriq Zavaleta retires, there will always be someone who suggests bringing one of those players back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Me too. I was actually pretty pleased after yesterday passed and VV wasn't signed.

    Just when you start to think the shadow 2017 is fading into the distance, boom, it's back.
    yeah but VV actually played a very useful role for a playoff team last year and would be cheap.

    i think it'd be a good get, especially for a team lacking attacking mid depth

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    What are peoples opinions on this? I love Suarez as one of the best strikers of this generation, but there are lots of reasons to not want him aswell. The source sucks, but I would like to hear the thoughts of the people.


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    Suarez doesn't fit what we need.


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    Not suggesting this guy in particular, but doing the old tranfrmarket research, I'd be looking at CF, out of contract next year, who isn't starting anymore but in a big league & is 23-30.

    Irvin Cardona of Stade Brestois is an example of what comes up when you look for that (I have no clue about him, to be honest).

    As I said, not specifically him but that's the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    What are peoples opinions on this? I love Suarez as one of the best strikers of this generation, but there are lots of reasons to not want him aswell. The source sucks, but I would like to hear the thoughts of the people.

    would be a terrible signing, also just won't happen.

    he's going to miami

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    Wouldn’t surprise me if none of this were true. Suarez feels like a player who will wind up in Japan or the middle east, to me. MLS hasn’t paid market for this type of player historically.
    What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Me too. I was actually pretty pleased after yesterday passed and VV wasn't signed.

    Just when you start to think the shadow 2017 is fading into the distance, boom, it's back.
    Victor is as fragile as it gets , he will always be a bad step away from a long spell on the injured reserve list, waste of money for me, throw in monies saved on not signing Oso and somehow getting Michael Bradley off the books and thats close to 4 million on bringing in a number 9 or a midfield general which is much more of a need for our club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    would be a terrible signing, also just won't happen.

    he's going to miami
    Can I inquire why you believe this to the case? I am not a fan but at face value, from my lazy Wikipedia scouting, hes still scoring at an advanced age. Otherwise, the thing I like about his profile from an MLS perspective, is that he plays for Uruguay in an environment where the supporting cash outside of Cavani are steady but unspectacular and he has to shoulder the load. So unlike someone like Defoe, hed get that he has to step up and contribute directly (whether he can is another story) rather than stand with hands on his hips at midfield waiting for the perfect ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    would be a terrible signing, also just won't happen. he's going to miami
    Have to disagree with you on this.
    Share some similar thoughts as ag futbol.
    Character issues aside, I think Luis Suarez still is someone to consider as an apropos skilled candidate.
    Has something to offer; to TFC by complimenting both Lolo and Fede.
    To highlight a series of 'criteria bulletins' from an old Y11 BleecherReport article by David Hendrick.
    Which I believe still hold merit.
    When considering him, one could judge and measure the following...
    Work Rate,
    Will To Win,
    Versatility,
    Selflessness,
    Vision & Passing Ability,
    Movement & Strength,
    Quick Feet & Dribbling Ability,
    Inventiveness & Unpredictability,
    Goal Scoring Ability,
    And
    Ability To Carry A Team.
    I suspect he still scores decent/passes on all of these.
    Last edited by Mr. Inbetween; 12-02-2022 at 10:47 AM.

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    Rodolofo Pizarro may be available.
    Loan over; back to MFC.
    Could he be an Osorio replacement candidate?
    Also, unconfirmed chatter, he took a significant discount/-70% for Monterrey even though they may have been on the hook for his MFC 3M+ DP wages.

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    Non-credible source stating Jordan Morris may be available.
    Both he and Cristian Roldan are asking for higher wages; 'DP' salary?
    Suggests Roldan will be accommodated/kept but not Morris.
    My understanding is for TFC Morris could be on MID-TO-HIGH-TAM within that MLS 15-20% bump limit structure.
    Would he be an Osorio replacement candidate? Nope! Cause he is essentially a winger!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Non-credible source stating Jordan Morris may be available.
    Both he and Cristian Roldan are asking for higher wages; 'DP' salary?
    Suggests Roldan will be accommodated/kept but not Morris.
    My understanding is for TFC Morris could be on MID-TO-HIGH-TAM within that MLS 15-20% bump limit structure.
    Would he be an Osorio replacement candidate?
    Isnt Morris a winger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamp Berg View Post
    Isn’t Morris a winger?
    Yes. Thanks. Predominately a winger. On both sides.
    Duh! Wasn't thinking. On this pay me no nevermind.
    Thought, also, at times, a centre forward, as well as, left mid/a-Mid.
    Believed he had a Swiss Army Knife ability.
    Maybe a little cross-confused with Roldan.
    I am mistaken.
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    VV would still be good as a depth player. The price has to be reasonable though, sentimentality can't enter into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Rodolofo Pizarro may be available.
    Loan over; back to MFC.
    Could he be an Osorio replacement candidate?
    Also, unconfirmed chatter, he took a significant discount/-70% for Monterrey even though they may have been on the hook for his MFC 3M+ DP wages.
    I like him but not at DP level. DPs need to be pure difference makers and while he is good, he hasn't shown that in MLS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    VV would still be good as a depth player. The price has to be reasonable though, sentimentality can't enter into it.
    My problem is that this Cheyrou type bench depth role should be taken by Bradley this season. We sign VV and either we get an ancient bench/decreased opportunities for some younger legs or we just pencil MB back at at DM for 34+ matches.

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    Speaking of midfielders, I remain incredibly concerned about MAK. Obviously the World Cup is a completely different animal than MLS, but the guy has lost any semblance of a first touch and his passing has regressed. Defensively he isn't good at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Speaking of midfielders, I remain incredibly concerned about MAK. Obviously the World Cup is a completely different animal than MLS, but the guy has lost any semblance of a first touch and his passing has regressed. Defensively he isn't good at all.
    tbf he's playing a way different position for canada.

    he's not a holding mid but playing there.

    his value is as a shuttler, can log huge miles, press well, move ball well smartly higher up the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Yes. Thanks. Predominately a winger. On both sides.
    Duh! Wasn't thinking. On this pay me no nevermind.
    Thought, also, at times, a centre forward, as well as, left mid/a-Mid.
    Believed he had a Swiss Army Knife ability.
    Maybe a little cross-confused with Roldan.
    I am mistaken.
    Honestly wasnt sure either, just remembered him playing wing the few times Ive watched Seattle play

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    tbf he's playing a way different position for canada.

    he's not a holding mid but playing there.

    his value is as a shuttler, can log huge miles, press well, move ball well smartly higher up the pitch.
    Even as a huge Oso fan, playing him and Kaye together as a midfield two is suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Speaking of midfielders, I remain incredibly concerned about MAK. Obviously the World Cup is a completely different animal than MLS, but the guy has lost any semblance of a first touch and his passing has regressed. Defensively he isn't good at all.
    Same. I think he had a brief run of form in MLS when he was starter quality but for the most part looks overrated.

    The mental gymnastics required to say this guy is actually contributing as a starter (or is capable of contributing as a starter) get more complicated by the day.

 

 

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