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    I will all be obvious soon


    2 weeks






    (I hear you FootballAZ....it is disconcerting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    i want the management team to prove me wrong-seems to be the same pattern as the years before- over confidence and slow moving.

    I dont understand is Johnson really considering to stay with NYFC in a rebuild over TFC- what the heck did TFC say or do- lol


    I honestly want to know how this year is going to start- I want to see this team back where it should be.


    I realized Team Canada has me more invested at this moment then TFC.


    Lets get the 7 new players - lets go.


    PS. Due diligence and right fit isnt an excuse as even when they took their time -some players didnt pan out.

    If the rumour is that both youngins are being sold for GAM or whatever - this could be the first step before the next moves.


    Isnt having a whole squad in training camp crucial to the teams early success? I really dont want to hear give it 3 months into the season -.
    This is the transfer rumour /2023 squad building thread, not the panic attack thread.

    Thats next door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    This is the transfer rumour /2023 squad building thread, not the panic attack thread.

    Thats next door.

    any credible news stating johnson is signed yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    i'd be shocked (and worried) if sean johnson wasn't announced today.

    Good Sir- your own words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    I will all be obvious soon


    2 weeks






    (I hear you FootballAZ....it is disconcerting)


    this gave me flashback + nightmares + anxiety

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    Good Sir- your own words.
    Yes. I am.

    Doesn't mean I have to spam the board every day /hour with the same worry.

    People are trying to read this for news they don't want to see the same whining every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    didn't someone on here say he's signed?

    LCD Eindhoven did
    To be fair to LCD Eindhoven, I would feel a lot better to have a Bogert, Singh or one of the Athletic guys confirm it. I do think it will happen, I am just hoping for it to be verified soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    To be fair to LCD Eindhoven, I would feel a lot better to have a Bogert, Singh or one of the Athletic guys confirm it. I do think it will happen, I am just hoping for it to be verified soon.
    same.

    although his source did give him poz, salcedo, MAK trades before they all happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    Yes. I am.

    Doesn't mean I have to spam the board every day /hour with the same worry.

    People are trying to read this for news they don't want to see the same whining every day.


    You must be related to someone at TFC

    Another personal shot at myself along with others ?


    How about justified impatience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    same.

    although his source did give him poz, salcedo, MAK trades before they all happened.

    If that's the case - as mentioned maybe the trades foe Nelson and whoever else is holding up signing Johnson- hopefully it doesn't impact his decision if a trade doesn't happen quick enough- quick enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    You must be related to someone at TFC

    Another personal shot at myself along with others ?


    How about justified impatience.
    even if it was justified, we don't need to see the same shit every day.

    and im not related to anyone at tfc and have already said id be royally pissed off if we don't get all our business done before the season.

    doesn't mean i have to post the same worry and shit every day, that doesn't help anything.

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    I'm going to address this once because, frankly, an intervention is needed and I don't see anyone else doing it.

    There is a VAST difference between voicing concern and constantly posting doom and gloom. We don't need VAR to see that we're past that with some posters here. There are better places to write these thoughts down, but if you want to have any sort of nuanced conversation, it doesn't belong here. If you need to write some of these in a diary, or want to start a blog or something, that's fine. But when you post something on a forum, you are EXPECTING a response and interaction, and you do NOT get to say "well you have to engage with my post positively" and THEN accuse others of calling you out on your behaviour. This is not an attack on your PERSON, but it is an indictment of behaviour that doesn't add anything to the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    I need to pull together a list of this board's complaint memes. Could maybe turn it into a book.
    It would be an epic tome, maybe bigger than War and Peace.
    MLS is a tough, physical league, that emphasizes speed, and features plastic fields, grueling travel, extreme weather, and incompetent refs. - NK Toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuushalinsky View Post
    My assumption is this doesn't apply to DPs, but van der Wiel as well speaks to how bad some players do in this league.
    I think for every Taty or Vazquez there are four vdWs.
    "There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuushalinsky View Post
    I'm going to address this once because, frankly, an intervention is needed and I don't see anyone else doing it.

    There is a VAST difference between voicing concern and constantly posting doom and gloom. We don't need VAR to see that we're past that with some posters here. There are better places to write these thoughts down, but if you want to have any sort of nuanced conversation, it doesn't belong here. If you need to write some of these in a diary, or want to start a blog or something, that's fine. But when you post something on a forum, you are EXPECTING a response and interaction, and you do NOT get to say "well you have to engage with my post positively" and THEN accuse others of calling you out on your behaviour. This is not an attack on your PERSON, but it is an indictment of behaviour that doesn't add anything to the discussion.
    10000% yes

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    I know VDW didn't work out, but I actually thought he did well on the pitch, despite it being an awful season for us. If he arrived a year earlier, maybe the whole thing would have gone better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuushalinsky View Post
    My assumption is this doesn't apply to DPs, but van der Wiel as well speaks to how bad some players do in this league.
    VDW is a great example of a scouting department putting on the horse blinders when it came to off-field issues suggesting a sagging career trajectory. Red flags all over it. Said they knew better and all was fine, history provided them wrong.

    They were clearly hypnotized by the pedigree / athletic potential. Cause if he used it, he would have wrecked MLS like nobody’s business.

    He was lazy, disinterested trash for TFC while sitting on all the talent in the world. Some guys just don’t have the burning desire to play and keep up in the pro game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    I know VDW didn't work out, but I actually thought he did well on the pitch, despite it being an awful season for us. If he arrived a year earlier, maybe the whole thing would have gone better.
    Letting Beita go and replacing him with VdW might have been Vanney’s worse personnel move. Much more money was spent on the position for less effective play both defensively and going forward. Not to mention open aggression in practice. We were the worst off for it for quite a while given that not only was Beitashour better all around but he also worked much better with Morrow and our central defence. The best that can be said about VdW was that he was adequate at times on the pitch (but not deserving of his salary). Big mistake especially given that we already had the right-back we needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    didn't someone on here say he's signed?

    LCD Eindhoven did
    Note what else has been done.
    The second thought.
    A benefit of the doubt given.
    A heart. The beat.
    Haven't sold it, didn't trash it, just offered it; FWIW.
    Hopefully the first notion is accurate and soon.
    Fingers crossed if/that any moves involving the second notion afford TFC real roster returns.
    BTW... nature of being a messenger... maybe getting shot.
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    ^^This is not the way I remember the vdW episode.

    It was so frustrating. He was really strong in CCL, but he was part of everything going pear shaped after that. But I don’t think I (or anyone) thought he would be anything other than a starter in 2019. The blowup with Vanney came out of nowhere.

    It was actually Exhibit A for me on how hard it is to translate success elsewhere into this league. The endless long flights, midseason doldrums, games at Dallas and Denver or wherever one after another, to play in half empty stadiums in extreme heat with bad grass… lots of guys can’t fight through it. They get pissed. I felt Insigne went through it too this past year. We always have to wait and see with those types of guys. It is hard.
    "There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff

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    Re.: MLS U22 Initiative.
    If TFC is considering this go-to-pitch mechanism, hope they may also engage Andrea D'Amico.
    He may be able to offer some SerieA insight.
    Does represent Juve's Nicolo Fagioli.

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    Josef Martinez.
    Difficult.
    The Manager's nightmare.
    A missed opportunity?
    I think he would have been a fine fit between Lolo and Fede.

    Especially at the apparent price he is available to be had at.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Josef Martinez.
    Difficult.
    The Manager's nightmare.
    A missed opportunity?
    I think he would have been a fine fit between Lolo and Fede.

    Especially at the apparent price he is available to be had at.

    He's cooked and a toxic presence.

    Hard pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    ^^This is not the way I remember the vdW episode.

    It was so frustrating. He was really strong in CCL, but he was part of everything going pear shaped after that. But I don’t think I (or anyone) thought he would be anything other than a starter in 2019. The blowup with Vanney came out of nowhere.

    It was actually Exhibit A for me on how hard it is to translate success elsewhere into this league. The endless long flights, midseason doldrums, games at Dallas and Denver or wherever one after another, to play in half empty stadiums in extreme heat with bad grass… lots of guys can’t fight through it. They get pissed. I felt Insigne went through it too this past year. We always have to wait and see with those types of guys. It is hard.
    Thats a good way to put it - good at times, but not the right fit for MLS. VDW was fine, but Beita was a better fit (decent player, understood the league, reasonable cap hit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    He's cooked and a toxic presence.

    Hard pass
    Toxic? Probably.
    Cooked? Not so sure.
    Believe he got about 10 goals this past season?
    MLS clubs seems to be targeting imports at DP with similar productivity.
    Definitely would be a reclamation project.
    The juice could be worth the squeeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Toxic? Probably.
    Cooked? Not so sure.
    Believe he got about 10 goals this past season?
    MLS clubs seems to be targeting imports at DP with similar productivity.
    Definitely would be a reclamation project.
    The juice could be worth the squeeze.


    Especially considering no DP status and 50% is paid by another team - wouldn't it make sense in a capped league ?

    Wait he isn't over the age over 30 doesn't fit
    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    even if it was justified, we don't need to see the same shit every day.

    and im not related to anyone at tfc and have already said id be royally pissed off if we don't get all our business done before the season.

    doesn't mean i have to post the same worry and shit every day, that doesn't help anything.
    I'm a huge raptors fan - and don't even worry about masai and bobby- they've proven they know what they are doing haven't had to use buy outs or fire coaches - raptors staff has been poached from the raptors coaching tree.


    Not always negative- more worried about my investment and my team who wanted to be the first MLS team to win champions league- I want this vision to come true - its been backwards since


    If anyone has an issue I believe you can easily ignore or block.


    A new day tho- any rumors or confirmed signings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    Especially considering no DP status and 50% is paid by another team - wouldn't it make sense in a capped league ?

    Wait he isn't over the age over 30 doesn't fit
    Lol
    Terrible idea...yet again.

    He's on the cusp of 30 has had terrible injury issues and has 21 goals in the last 3 seasons combined.

    He'd be max tam very likely and has a history of toxicity in the dressing room.

    There's a reason atlanta were so keen to get rid
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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    I'm a huge raptors fan - and don't even worry about masai and bobby- they've proven they know what they are doing haven't had to use buy outs or fire coaches - raptors staff has been poached from the raptors coaching tree.


    Not always negative- more worried about my investment and my team who wanted to be the first MLS team to win champions league- I want this vision to come true - its been backwards since


    If anyone has an issue I believe you can easily ignore or block.


    A new day tho- any rumors or confirmed signings?
    You're right, I'll just put you on ignore.

    But before...

    I love that you use the raps as an example of something you're happy with....thry haven't won a playoff round since the 19/20 season and are on course to miss the playoffs 2/3 years with an incredibly poorly constructed roster.

    Just.. incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Josef Martinez.
    Difficult.
    The Manager's nightmare.
    A missed opportunity?
    I think he would have been a fine fit between Lolo and Fede.

    Especially at the apparent price he is available to be had at.

    If we could try him out for a month or so for cheap and let him and his wages go if it wasn’t looking good I’d be really interested to see the results. But given Bradley’s long “we need the right - and I mean right! - kind of guy” speech at the recent press conference… and his gutting of the team last season to begin to get the right kind of guys, even if it meant playing teenagers with little experience out of position and getting killed on the pitch - well, I’d say no chance in hell Martinez is going to be an option of any kind. Maybe better not to bother thinking about what’s impossible.

    Also, I get the feeling Phil Neville and Miami are on the clueless side about these sort of dynamics and will be hit and miss - or just bad - for some time in the league despite spending a ton. Martinez to Miami makes sense in the scheme of things but to Toronto not much at all.

    About the question of who will work between the two Italians I wouldn’t be surprised if that is not going to be an easy fit. Even Layrea who is brilliant getting forward on the right was not working very well with Bernadeschi. (If they don’t get that together it’s going to be a big waste of Layrea and his hefty salary.) The right guy, character-wise aside, I’m not sure who that is except that if the 9 doesn’t have the respect of both wingers he ain’t going to work out… and so far none of our strikers have it.

 

 

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