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    Angry 2023 SSH Renewal

    Here we go ...

    Day 1 SSH - Light Greys in lower 104 and 111 - $633 per seat - compared to last season $473 per seat.

    Complete and utter BS considering the season we've just had and seriously now considering dropping seats and just picking up singles when I need them.

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    That's up almost as much percentage wise as a bag of apples. I think they've misjudged the market.

    The only issue with dropping SSH tickets are if TFC makes the playoffs you'll only be able to buy playoff tickets from scalpers paying through the nose, particularly if TFC goes far.
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    Well this is the first time I'm actually going to have to think about renewing rather than just letting it roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    That's up almost as much percentage wise as a bag of apples. I think they've misjudged the market.

    The only issue with dropping SSH tickets are if TFC makes the playoffs you'll only be able to buy playoff tickets from scalpers paying through the nose, particularly if TFC goes far.
    EDIT: I have 6 seats - a luxury so I can bring friends, family and colleagues. In reality I need 2 seats and pick up spares for anyone else.

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    Weird -- mine in 220 (legacy) went from $478 to $523 so about $45 per seat increase (that's not factoring in the discount from last years unplayed game credit)-- still less than the full price $587 for "non-legacy" subscribers --- but the gap is closing.....The $90 extra for the pair probably covers the MLS Apple TV package that is "free" with ST this year. So I guess that is something?! I'll probably renew as I doubt I'll ever get as low a row again in the Upper Light Greys if I give them up in that section.....but it's getting close to where the renewal will not be as automatic as it once was....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
    Here we go ...

    Day 1 SSH - Light Greys in lower 104 and 111 - $633 per seat - compared to last season $473 per seat.

    Complete and utter BS considering the season we've just had and seriously now considering dropping seats and just picking up singles when I need them.
    Ouch. According to my notes last season in Light Grey was $510 for those with Year 1 pricing. And if (if!) I'm correct, that's 24% increase - or a 7.5% per year increase given the prices haven't changed in 3 years.

    Though at the same time, new seasons in light grey were $844, for the sales in 2021 (probably 10% higher for sales this year - if there'd been any available) ... maybe about $920?

    Supporters is up from $380 to $440 (5%/year over 3 years) for those with year 1 pricing, and up $457 to $510 (3.7%/year over 3 years) for those with tier 2 (2014?-2018?) pricing. Suddenly that doesn't sound so bad (about 4% to 5% per year increase).

    The good news, I suppose is) is that they are screwing long-time ticket holders less than new ticket holders.


    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Weird -- mine in 220 (legacy) went from $478 to $523 so about $45 per seat increase (that's not factoring in the discount from last years unplayed game credit)-- still less than the full price $587 for "non-legacy" subscribers --- but the gap is closing.....The $90 extra for the pair probably covers the MLS Apple TV package that is "free" with ST this year. So I guess that is something?! I'll probably renew as I doubt I'll ever get as low a row again in the Upper Light Greys if I give them up in that section.....but it's getting close to where the renewal will not be as automatic as it once was....
    $487 for the last 3 years is what my notes say. That sounds very civilized - a 9.4% increase - since 2020 - average of 3% a year.

    Sounds like the strategy is to raise the upper bowl tickets about the rate of inflation, and push up the lower bowl tickets much more. The light-grey pricing is now $110 higher in the lower compared to the upper - last year it was only $32.
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    9 years in sec 107. Last year was $3146 for a pair. This year is $3854. That’s about 23% if my math is right. Amazing.

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    I have had a pair of tickets in 126 since year one.

    2022 - $1571.68 +taxes
    2023 - $1854.86 +taxes

    Approximately 18% increase. Ouch.

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    Edit bc was corrected
    Last edited by leedsandTFC; 10-06-2022 at 11:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Weird -- mine in 220 (legacy) went from $478 to $523 so about $45 per seat increase (that's not factoring in the discount from last years unplayed game credit)-- still less than the full price $587 for "non-legacy" subscribers --- but the gap is closing.....The $90 extra for the pair probably covers the MLS Apple TV package that is "free" with ST this year. So I guess that is something?! I'll probably renew as I doubt I'll ever get as low a row again in the Upper Light Greys if I give them up in that section.....but it's getting close to where the renewal will not be as automatic as it once was....
    Edit bc was corrected
    Last edited by leedsandTFC; 10-06-2022 at 11:43 PM.

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    Hmm....goes from $688 to 804 in 221

    I'm legacy

    16% increase

    Glad I grabbed a south end ticket last year

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    I saw my email I didn't even login I wrote I want to cancel the past few years have been un acceptable

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    understand that the last few years have not been up to our standard, but we are really excited about the direction that the club is heading for 2023, and confident that we will be back competing for trophies!



    If you decide to cancel and submit the form, I will be sure to give you a call to follow up to discuss options, as well as if there is anything we can do to keep you on board for what promises to be an exciting 2023 season."



    I'll be compiling a list of current management mis managing TFC funds


    I'll check my price increase tomorrow don't wanna have that factor into the reasons why I want to not renew lol.

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    Edit bc I was corrected
    Last edited by leedsandTFC; 10-06-2022 at 11:42 PM. Reason: Edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    11% more games + 5% inflation so sane real terms price/ game.
    Yes, but it is still possible to be priced out of one can afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Yes, but it is still possible to be priced out of one can afford.


    It's true. That high inflation rate is killing everyone tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    2 extra games this year (leagues cup)
    No - 2022's ticket package was sold for 20 matches - same as for 2023. They only played 18 home matches in 2022, so we received a credit for 2 matches. My credit was 7%, although it was a 10% reduction in matches; I assume dynamic pricing is to blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstackho View Post
    No - 2022's ticket package was sold for 20 matches - same as for 2023. They only played 18 home matches in 2022, so we received a credit for 2 matches. My credit was 7%, although it was a 10% reduction in matches; I assume dynamic pricing is to blame.
    Interesting.
    I retract my comment.

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    I've had seats since year 2 in the southend. Looks like last year was 353 per and this year is 440. That is a 24% increase.

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    The price increase is a disgrace.
    My seats (in 110) went up 28%

    ETA: if I take into account the credit for the two games not played, it is approx 20%. Still pretty large.
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    Yup the increase is disgraceful after the season we just had. I hope they realize that their chain will be shortened in regards to the product on the field and for the services offered in BMO next season. In all ways 2023 is going to be a make or break season.

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    The prices for new members is exactly the same as 2022, the discounts that the renewals enjoy seems to be scaled back. Mine in Upper Light went from a 32% discount to only 11%.

    My guess is that new member demand is strong so they are not too concerned with retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBobSaget View Post
    My guess is that new member demand is strong so they are not too concerned with retention.
    They should look back to the good ol' days of TFC mismanagement and see how that worked out the first time.

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    anyone know a simple way to see last years total and monthly payment?

    This is how i am justifying not paying this increase-

    All the mismanaged funds seems to be pushed on loyal Supporters:

    3 Seasons with 60 GA - Unacceptable


    Wasted Money


    Laryea
    Altidore
    Armas
    Ali
    Solecedo
    Soteldo


    Highest Beers in MLS
    Last edited by FootBallAZ; 10-07-2022 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    anyone know a simple way to see last years total and monthly payment?
    In your account if you go to paid invoices, 2022 should be there.
    For some reason last year, all the older invoices disappeared (I used to be able to see a lot of them ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    They should look back to the good ol' days of TFC mismanagement and see how that worked out the first time.
    At least nobody is being forced to buy Marlies tickets any more... there's today's dysfunction and then there was early TFC -- which was monumental dysfunction.


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    Well who do you expect to foot the bill for Insigne and Berna.

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    All I have to say is at these prices, with this attendance, that if there's any matches with Argos turf damage I will be complaining. In no way should we have to suffer anything from our 'match day experience' at increased rates. And to appease some secondary, fringe league at that. Next season there shall be no quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well who do you expect to foot the bill for Insigne and Berna.


    That's how they positioned it as.

    reality is they are making up for the sunk cost of terrible asset management dating back to 2018 including re-couping investment from poz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Hmm....goes from $688 to 804 in 221

    I'm legacy

    16% increase

    Glad I grabbed a south end ticket last year
    Able to concur.
    Similar ticket and % rate increase amounts in 221.
    From $688 to $806; + 17.15%.
    CPI/CIR at 7.5%?
    Consolation?
    Confirmation... I am legacy? Whoo-hoo!

    Wobbling and wavering.
    Will likely commit to next season.
    Have real doubts about following season though.
    Will depend on if any increase is close to the projected rate around inflation; +3.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well who do you expect to foot the bill for Insigne and Berna.
    Well... was hoping... Apple... Adidas... BMO as Field/Stadium & Shirt Sponsor... Concessions/Merchandise Pricing... A DP No Transfer Fee Strategy...
    As well as... Federal, Provincial, City, even Canadian and/or International Football Federations like FIFA for subsidies regarding past (140M) and future (WC26) renovations.

 

 

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