If they didn`t train with the group, no chance they are starting tonight. And in Mak`s case, hasn`t played in what like months, so he's a no go to even contemplate starting.Originally Posted by noxx98
I'd really love to know what exactly is his injury.
every game with insigne + berna gonna be 28K plus unless we start losing every week
Toronto also among the fastest-growing MLS reddit subs right now, despite having already been top 5 for a long time. Given how much online chatter that site represents it suggests they have moved the public’s attention needle significantly.
(Meanwhile, CPL attendance figures continue to plummet like a stone. When will football investors in this country learn you can’t do it on the cheap and expect Cadillac results? Modern audiences are sophisticated; leagues have to grow and improve quite quickly to be taken seriously. We barely move the needle and we’re already in the top league available to us. I’m not denying its overall value, but they’re running it into the ground, and possibly using Can NATS money to do it.)
CPL is following the path that early MLS followed. Unfortunately that ultra cheap direction led to a significant loss of audience after the first couple of years to very low levels and near bankruptcy in 2002. It took new Commissioner Don Garber to set a new path for MLS.
Hopefully now that the CPL has hired Don Garber's assistant as Commissioner they can better learn from MLS on how to make a league successful.
So... is everyone planning to applaud Vanney on his return?
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I'd applaud Vasquez if he comes on, loved that guy.
IT will be effective if he can introduce investor confidence. I did a broad investigative piece into a launch in Canada but the story got spiked for political/financial reasons about two years before I left the Sun.
I interviewed investors left in the lurch by the Edmonton Aviators and the A-League and it was clear a number of regular players in the Canadian “minor pro” sports scene are shysters of the highest order.
It seems this time those involved at least got real money behind each of the teams, and those that fell into the scammy/operator category are mostly — mostly — gone as far as I can tell. But I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes at the CPL. There do seem to be several areas of general incompetency, mostly in the vein of promotion and communication. But the on-field, sport-forward stuff is getting better each year.
So it’s really at that point where a strong central administrator needs to identify where individual franchises are falling down, call them out on it effectively without embarrassing anyone, and then bring in investors who recognize this could all explode in popularity post the World Cup and pre the one here.
Let’s face it: most pro teams in europe operate on sub 20,000 crowds, many sub 10,000. If a CPL could average 8-12,000 in small, soccer specific stadiums (they can be built quite cheaply compared to the bigger versions, ala Vancouver’s initial “temp” stadium that came in at $18-20 million. Think old-school rectangle stadiums, slope seating), and I think it can, it can also leverage some multi-level capital investment, including three levels of government, with the knowledge that out of season and in road lulls, they can serve the community as minor soccer showcase venues, training camp venues etc. Supporter group investment pools are also popular for euro sports — and it’s worth keeping in mind their array of professional team sports is actually far wider than in North America: handball, rugby, netball, cricket, etc.
The Edmonton NASL team was averaging more than 10,000 a game in the late 70s and early 80s. Its owners ran it into the ground and travel costs, with most of the destinations deep in the U.S., were apparently brutal. But that’s way less of an issue with domestic buses and flights.
And if we can get a proper first-division quality domestic league going, ala smaller Euro countries, MLS, larger central american countries, we can see that push for more capital improvement at a smaller level as well, in smaller cities and towns that could host second division teams.
History is not a limitation on future; if Luton and Darlington and Oxford can support pro teams and draw 5,000 to 10,000 plus per game, so can Red Deer, Lethbridge, The Okanagan, Mississauga, Laval, Moncton (hell, they could probably host a cpl team. Their local university pickup team beat Sunderland U23s last month), Charlottetown, St. John, Fredericton.
This country has a lot of issues with distance, population and travel. But one thing we do have in abundance is towns just big enough to support a junior hockey team. But that’s one season and football is growing.
Last edited by jloome; 08-31-2022 at 11:35 AM.
Great player, still. Less mobile but he gets in good positions anyway, so…
That Ricky Puig is a heck of a passer. Can’t give him any space.
the interest in TFC is through the roof.
check out the MLS youtube highlights, always significantly more views on tfc vids than any other team apart from LAFC.
Kerr is certainly out.
From the injury report for TFC:
OUT: Deandre Kerr (lower body)
QUESTIONABLE: Jonathan Osorio (upper body)
QUESTIONABLE: Mark-Anthony Kaye (lower body)
For LAG:
OUT: Jorge Villafaña (left knee)
OUT: Jonathan Perez (knee)
OUT: Mark Delgado (health & safety protocols)
Bummer that we won't be able to welcome Delgado back.
That sucks. Was hoping to see Delgado get a nice ovation tonight.
Seriously wtf happened to MAK
What questionable CNE food option are people trying tonight-I’m thinking ketchup ice cream cause it’s red
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/TorontoFC/status/1565108083625541644?s=20&t=p7_bNvzXsN61nqQVGL9cgw
I worry a lot about our midfield. Ayo and Jimenez are having a mid off at striker.
VV starts for LAG.
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/LAGalaxy/status/1565108553056038912?s=20&t=hc1KOzEpoP79x0Kv7sNRbw
1 ex TFC starts, 1 on the bench - no sign of Zavs - as already indicated, Deglado out - looks like Covid.
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We will see if Thompson can learn as much from being around Bernadeschi as Nelson is from Insigne.
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Pre game show tonight
Yes, two kids.
But I like Kosi - I think he just needs to mature a bit and learn the game better. We'll see what he can do tonight.
Their starting midfield vs. our starting midfield. Ooooof
Oh FFS is that Ted unkel???
insigne is playing central and nelson at left wing
Nelson making two LAG players destroy each other was great.
wow some actual great decisions with Nelson right now
Caldwell giving Ayo credit for that "pass" off an awful touch is very nice of him.
Puig and Bradley battling in midfield is an intriguing matchup.
MLS has improved so much. Compare the technical ability and ball movement in 15 minutes tonight by both teams to a TFC/Galaxy game from 2012 or 2013.
Victor Vazquez is less effective without an in form Giovinco to pass to.
We feel too loose defensively, not getting early pressure
I just hate it when a defensive stupid mistake starts a cascade that leads to a goal against...
Richie hoofs a free kick to Mavinga who can't make a simple pass to Criscito
THAT is what caused that goal
Nice strike but LMAO Bono is garbage
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