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    Jozy confirmed gone for this game.

    The only guy with a possible grudge now is Omar.


    Well, apart from Arena who seems annoyed at the world in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    To clarify, my argument was a construct within the Mister's formational rigidity of a 4-3-3.
    I wouldn't mind seeing the 4-4-2 mentioned if MAK is out; give it a go.
    Ditto about BB. He has to show us something more.
    With a wealth by years of experience, he should have a tactical trick or two up his sleeve.
    I checked on whoscored and we’ve played a 4-3-3 six times, 3-4-2-1 six times, 4-4-2 five times, 4-2-3-1 four times, and a 3-4-3 once. Some of that was experimenting with how to fit in Poz, but the rest looks like some level of pragmatism.
    As far as BB goes, I’m reserving my judgement until he’s done his major moves and is at the tinkering stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamp Berg View Post
    I checked on whoscored and we’ve played a 4-3-3 six times, 3-4-2-1 six times, 4-4-2 five times, 4-2-3-1 four times, and a 3-4-3 once. Some of that was experimenting with how to fit in Poz, but the rest looks like some level of pragmatism.
    As far as BB goes, I’m reserving my judgement until he’s done his major moves and is at the tinkering stage.
    Understand about BB.
    Agree with your match formation data.
    Again, my suggestion was within a context construct of Mister hell bent on playing only a 4-3-3.
    Given the information you outline, the suggestion is he is more pragmatic then some may believe.
    His history suggests this; I believed/believe this.
    IIUC, the 4-4-2 occurred in a consecutive stretch between TFC games 15 to 19; 1W - 3L - 1D.
    For those starts, POZ was set up mostly on the R-MID yet had free range.
    The CB's were mostly starts between CS, CM and SO.
    QW as GK with JO and MB as C-MIDS started the win and tie.
    The only other time they started together in that stretch... they lost; therefore a 1-1-1 record.
    DC started the last game on that run; the tie
    KT, LP, AA and JJ started in all or the rest in their BB expected positions.
    With LI and FB on the MID flanks we should perform better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Jozy confirmed gone for this game.

    The only guy with a possible grudge now is Omar.


    Well, apart from Arena who seems annoyed at the world in general
    That's fine. Omar having a grudge doesn't worry me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    That's fine. Omar having a grudge doesn't worry me.
    I don't know. Ayo looks almost as slow as Omar lately.

    Please prove me wrong, Ayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    I don't know. Ayo looks almost as slow as Omar lately.

    Please prove me wrong, Ayo.
    Yeah. Ayo, please prove us wrong.

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    Did I see that correct. Does that show us as 6th in the running to win MLS cup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 613reppingTFC View Post
    Did I see that correct. Does that show us as 6th in the running to win MLS cup?
    okay steve, you’re the gambling guy, explain this one to us. how can we be sixth seed when we need to win probably nine of our remaining twelve games even to have a shot at the playoffs (the east being weak, the experts seem to be targeting 47 pts as the standard)?

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    White and grey kit tonight 😕

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    Quote Originally Posted by 613reppingTFC View Post
    Did I see that correct. Does that show us as 6th in the running to win MLS cup?
    yes it does

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    okay steve, you’re the gambling guy, explain this one to us. how can we be sixth seed when we need to win probably nine of our remaining twelve games even to have a shot at the playoffs (the east being weak, the experts seem to be targeting 47 pts as the standard)?
    I can only assume they think we will make the playoffs and win many away playoff games
    It’s quite remarkable to go from 100:1 to 16:1 in one week
    i have never seen anything like this
    note: currently cinci is at 1.27 pts per game and would make playoffs 1.27 ppg is 43pts over a 34 game season
    tfc needs to average 1.75ppg to get to 43 pts

    also for this years mls cup winner to be legitimate somebody needs to beat tfc in the playoffs as it could be argued tfc is the best team in the league now
    you cant have the best team in the league not in the playoffs that's just goofy
    Last edited by stevep; 07-30-2022 at 12:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    I can only assume they think we will make the playoffs and win many away playoff games
    It’s quite remarkable to go from 100:1 to 16:1 in one week
    i have never seen anything like this
    Something 'muggy' going on!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    Something 'muggy' going on!?
    upon further thought: +1600 odds implies 6% probability
    so two ways to achieve this with having to win 4 games
    4th place finish then probabilities to win each game are 0.80,0.42,0.42,0.42
    7th place finish then probabilities to win each game are 0.50,0.50,0.50,0.50
    multiply numbers in each scenerio to get 6%

    win probabilities are my assumptions of the odds of each game or the average of each game
    either way they think tfc is going to make the playoffs

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    Bet365 odds makers are still based in the UK right? They may be weighting the influence of the Italians a little heavy through a euro snob lens?

    Or these been a flood of money on TFC since last Saturday for similar reasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    Bet365 odds makers are still based in the UK right? They may be weighting the influence of the Italians a little heavy through a euro snob lens?

    Or these been a flood of money on TFC since last Saturday for similar reasons?
    Odds makers follow the money, they have algorithms for these things.

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    Kaye was doubtful on Thursday & not seen in social media for the team on this trip sooooo.....another does of Nelson tonight, it seems.

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    There will be a pregame show at 7:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Kaye was doubtful on Thursday & not seen in social media for the team on this trip sooooo.....another does of Nelson tonight, it seems.
    If Kaye is out and they insist on starting Nelson, it should be a 4-4-2 with Nelson playing LM and if Insigne is fit enough, he can play just behind Jesus or Ayo. If Insigne is just a bench option tonight, start Ayo and Jesus up top. Just do not play Nelson in the center of midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    If Kaye is out and they insist on starting Nelson, it should be a 4-4-2 with Nelson playing LM and if Insigne is fit enough, he can play just behind Jesus or Ayo. If Insigne is just a bench option tonight, start Ayo and Jesus up top. Just do not play Nelson in the center of midfield.
    We'd be better to play Bernie there and Ayo on the right.

    But Bernadeschi recently did an interview saying he could never have succeed at Juve because they insisted on using him as a utility player in six different positions, so he might bristle at that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    We'd be better to play Bernie there and Ayo on the right.

    But Bernadeschi recently did an interview saying he could never have succeed at Juve because they insisted on using him as a utility player in six different positions, so he might bristle at that idea.
    If Bernie is okay with moving further forward (which almost all players are), I'd say start JMR at RM and use Ayo as a second half sub. Unfortunately, Bradley seems to either not trust JMR or not believe he is 100% yet.

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    So 25 minutes until we can begin the process of this thread either becoming

    all on this team is

    vs.

    today at least was
    Last edited by OgtheDim; 07-30-2022 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    So 25 minutes until we can begin the process of this thread either becoming

    all on this team is

    vs.

    today at least was
    i admit, i’m meme deficient, so i have no idea what the fuck the second thing is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    i admit, i’m meme deficient, so i have no idea what the fuck the second thing is.
    I'm lit AF as the kids would say and also have no idea if that is a ghost or a questionable member of society.

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    Basically the A team except Nelson existing in midfield. Good to see JMR getting a start over Kosi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    i admit, i’m meme deficient, so i have no idea what the fuck the second thing is.
    Among the emoticons available on this site, this is the only one equivalent to a "fluffy bunny"


    Speaking of this dichtomy between bad & good - both Nelson & JMR start today.

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    You know what grinds my gears? Kerr playing as a backup to Jayden Nelson.

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    I just want to see JMR do well.

    And more Nelson midfield. Dang. Do we not have even one yute that's worth bringing up in position

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    Looks like the Revs are starting Tommy McNamara with the sole intention of breaking Bernardeschi's ankles with a gross tackle.

 

 

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