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    Quote Originally Posted by Section 223 View Post
    Actually I’m quite sure you believed Hoilett was a better choice then Berna , you mention all the great Junior Premier league stats and tell us that Berna only has 8 SerieA goals, You truly thought Hoilett is a better player then Berna straight up there is no mistake in the context of the discussion. Admit you were wrong and we can be friends amigo.
    He literally already admitted it. He even says so in his post. Why carry on with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Starting to wonder if we even employ scouts or just scan the Italian and Canadian NT lists.

    boy manning sure tells the truth,i will never doubt him again

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    Doneil is a decent defender for MLS level and very good in the air. I don't see him as any better than what we've already got, he's just depth and experience. But we need that right now.

    SOmeone pointed out he hasn't had a league red card in nine years, or something, so the rashness may be gone.

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    https://twitter.com/MichaelSingh94

    Per a club spokesperson: “Doneil Henry was simply in Toronto and looking to train. He was welcomed to train with TFC. There's nothing more than that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Doneil is a decent defender for MLS level and very good in the air. I don't see him as any better than what we've already got, he's just depth and experience. But we need that right now.

    SOmeone pointed out he hasn't had a league red card in nine years, or something, so the rashness may be gone.
    Doneil fills the same gap for me that O'Neil does. I think both can start in MLS but are not starters on a contender, which we should be next year. Given the atrocious backline situation, I don't see harm in taking on Doneil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Starting to wonder if we even employ scouts or just scan the Italian and Canadian NT lists.

    As a CB or RB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Doneil fills the same gap for me that O'Neil does. I think both can start in MLS but are not starters on a contender, which we should be next year. Given the atrocious backline situation, I don't see harm in taking on Doneil.
    read post 3934

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    As a CB or RB?
    read post 3934

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie View Post
    read post 3934
    Maybe.
    Or...
    IIRC, do you mean this to be in the same sense they 'allowed or invited'...
    unbeknownst to the public/us for a while at least at that time..
    Dom Dwyer to 'train' with TFC...
    until he was the newest member of TFC?

    <EDIT>
    BTW...
    In this case...
    Doneil Henry - Dom Dwyer...
    Apples & Oranges!
    Last edited by Mr. Inbetween; 07-21-2022 at 08:59 PM. Reason: Grammar

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    ^ Seba kinda also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Doneil is a decent defender....
    Disagree...there is a reason why he keeps getting cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Disagree...there is a reason why he keeps getting cut.
    Doniel is an incredible defender for 95% of the game and a bomb scare, red card liability for the other 5%.

    Unfortunately, it’s the type of job where your worst moment defines the performance as opposed the best, hence his current struggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Doniel is an incredible defender for 95% of the game and a bomb scare, red card liability for the other 5%.
    Henry hasn't had a red card in a club match since 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Disagree...there is a reason why he keeps getting cut.
    Perhaps, the somewhat cautionary EFL and EPL tale that should have been mentioned to Richie Laryea?
    Richie just cannot catch a twig with the Forest; they just keep seeding or transplanting other Trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    Henry hasn't had a red card in a club match since 2013.
    He was going to get one against Mexico if he wasn't pulled early, which he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    Henry hasn't had a red card in a club match since 2013.
    But he does have 3 yellows in only 5 appearances this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    He was going to get one against Mexico if he wasn't pulled early, which he was.
    Sure - that seemed like a bit of coaching direction for him to go and be physical until he gets a card and then he was getting pulled.
    He's only had one red card for team Canada. Whether it's because the managers pull him early or he understands where to draw the line, he's only had three red cards in his career (two of which were for second yellows). Given he's only had one red card (for club or country) since 2013, I wouldn't call him a red card liability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    He was going to get one against Mexico if he wasn't pulled early, which he was.
    Which could be said about so many other matches he plays. And the red card is only part of it… blown coverage, conceded penalties, unforced errors.

    The guy is a walking invitation to be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    He was going to get one against Mexico if he wasn't pulled early, which he was.
    I will never get over the anxiety I felt waiting for Herdman to pull him in that game.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Doniel is an incredible defender for 95% of the game and a bomb scare, red card liability for the other 5%.

    Unfortunately, it’s the type of job where your worst moment defines the performance as opposed the best, hence his current struggles.
    Impressions are important. I have them too.
    As OtD suggests, there has to be a reason why he is sent wandering; a nomad.
    Still, IIUC, the hard data does not entirely or necessarily support your view.
    Yes, it seems in his early years, like at TFC he had many Yellows but only ever a couple of or three Reds in his career.
    Without any South Korea data, he has had in the ensuing years about the same total of Yellows since those seasons and no additional Reds?
    Seems he may have curtailed his 'habits' which in turn may warrant a re-assessment of your impression due to hard-stats.
    Even if he has been subbed as a yellow liability, par for course; there is the ability for now for 5 subs.
    He may be worth the further consideration as a temporary or depth solution. The rest of this season and optional next; if allowed.
    As mentioned by Portu he is not 'the starter on a contender' but maybe he can be 'a starter or the sub for now that helps us to contend'.

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    On the topic of older guys that got big money on the back of their breakout WC performance: I agree its not that common. But it does happen

    The big breakout older guy in 2018 was Takashi Inui, who was 30. He went from Eibar to Betis (I am not totally sure of the exact timing) but I remember he went on a free, and there was lots of oohing and ahhing about him as the great hidden gem available on a free that summer.

    I can make the case that Insigne (and Bernardeschi) are older players converted Euro success into big incremental free agent dollars. Same for Spinnazola btw, depending on what happens with him.
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    ^^BTW does anyone know if Latif Blessing is accompanying him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    ^^BTW does anyone know if Latif Blessing is accompanying him?
    Blessing went into the Nashville game late the other day. He's playing at LAFC, just not as much as he'd like, it seems. Other issues may be at work there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    On the topic of older guys that got big money on the back of their breakout WC performance: I agree its not that common. But it does happen

    The big breakout older guy in 2018 was Takashi Inui, who was 30. He went from Eibar to Betis (I am not totally sure of the exact timing) but I remember he went on a free, and there was lots of oohing and ahhing about him as the great hidden gem available on a free that summer.

    I can make the case that Insigne (and Bernardeschi) are older players converted Euro success into big incremental free agent dollars. Same for Spinnazola btw, depending on what happens with him.
    TI played in the B. Think he may even have helped promote his team into it.
    Not sure about later.
    Believe Betis was a bust. Wandered. Bounced back? Maybe?

    Yes that case can be made.
    Yet, Lorenziello and Fede won the Euros and performed.
    Although, not much so regarding the WC22.
    Sorry, Oso? Yes, he has helped the NT qualify for WC22.
    Yes, everything is relative.
    Still, he really hasn't won or been a part of wining something honestly comparable.
    Are you suggesting Oso / CMNT are gonna win the WC?
    I do hope Canada exceeds expectations.
    A word of sincere advise. As I am being told about TFC for now... you may want to manage them.
    The odds may not be in our favour...
    IIUC, latest FIFA Men's World Rankings of Group F'ooked... Belgium#2, Croatia#15, Moracco#21, Canada#43?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post
    TI played in the B. Think he may even have helped promote his team into it.
    Not sure about later.
    Believe Betis was a bust. Wandered. Bounced back? Maybe?

    Yes that case can be made.
    Yet, Lorenziello and Fede won the Euros and performed.
    Although, not much so regarding the WC22.
    Sorry, Oso? Yes, he has helped the NT qualify for WC22.
    Yes, everything is relative.
    Still, he really hasn't won or been a part of wining something honestly comparable.
    Are you suggesting Oso / CMNT are gonna win the WC?
    I do hope Canada exceeds expectations.
    A word of sincere advise. As I am being told about TFC for now... you may want to manage them.
    The odds may not be in our favour...
    IIUC, latest FIFA Men's World Rankings of Group F'ooked... Belgium#2, Croatia#15, Moracco#21, Canada#43?


    They need to go 1-1-1 to advance.

    Canada already exceeded all expectations.

    Dec 1 is probably where canada gets their W.

    Croatia is old.

    Davies is game changer. Ill be there and expect rd 16 game, already have SF and QF if they make it would be wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootBallAZ View Post
    They need to go 1-1-1 to advance.

    Canada already exceeded all expectations.

    Dec 1 is probably where canada gets their W.

    Croatia is old.

    Davies is game changer. Ill be there and expect rd 16 game, already have SF and QF if they make it would be wonderful.
    Hope so.
    Will not mind at all being completely wrong on this.
    Already exceeded expectations?
    For me, no. I expected qualifying. At the WC, I expect goals. I expect at least a win.
    And if a tie or win follows or precedes, then they have exceeded my expectations.
    We have stumbled in rank after soaring from previous times.
    We are underdogs in several ways. Many odds are against us.
    Not a bad position to be in.
    Where has it been confirmed that a 1-1-1 advances us?

    For me...
    Morocco should be the win. Internally, currently in shambles; hopefully continues. Fingers&Toes Crossed for an implosion.
    Belgium is the tie or unexpected win. Similar to France. If they play with 'the sun(win) in their eyes', they might be had; the draw or win.
    Croatia? They are the fighters, for their lives, tenacious; every game. For simplicity, they will 'Italy' Canada; our loss.
    I hope Davies shines.
    Have a wonderful time, stay cool and safe, enjoy the experience and the Machbus(Machboos).
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    Are we interested in Aaron Ramsey as a box to box mid?

    Out at Juventus!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Inbetween View Post

    Yes that case can be made.
    Yet, Lorenziello and Fede won the Euros
    Sorry, Oso? Yes, he has helped the NT qualify for WC22.
    Yes, everything is relative.
    Still, he really hasn't won or been a part of wining something honestly comparable.
    Are you suggesting Oso / CMNT are gonna win the WC?
    I think Oso's contract situation is interesting given the setup. That’s all I am saying.

    We all know, talking soccer, that he is a nice TAM player. We can argue more than a million, a million a year, how much term? That's what he is. He is not a DP.

    My theory is this. We are underdogs. If we lose to Belgium and Croatia.. OK. But if Canada don’t just lose those first two games, interest in this is going to explode. Like, EXPLODE. Total supernova. Beyond Raps 2019, beyond anything since Canada Russia 1972.

    If Oso has a big role in that, all the valuation rules may go out the window. I think he just might, Oso is a gamer. His very best moments were in CCL. Away at Mexico. Against the US.

    A lot of ifs in there, but that is the entirety of my speculation. I dream about finding out if I am right.
    Last edited by ensco; 07-22-2022 at 06:06 AM.
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    Oso leaving for somewhere in Europe I would be fine with. It would be fun to see him come back up here for a Leagues Cup match with a LigaMx team - that would be understandable.

    Oso leaving for within MLS would be heartbreaking - but I'm with ensco, I don't see him getting DP wages anywhere. Max Tam, sure. MLSE would give him max Tam & Oso would stay.

    I think its Europe/LigaMx or us.

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    ^ I wouldn’t rule out the whitecaps overpaying. They overpaid Cavallini. They need to sell tickets. It would be viewed as a way to get attention and one-up us as their Canadian rival.

 

 

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