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    Not to be inappropriate, but wouldn’t be surprised if there was always a strong chance of Salcedo returning to Mexico within a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Not to be inappropriate, but wouldn’t be surprised if there was always a strong chance of Salcedo returning to Mexico within a year.
    I think with the way the club was trying to 'run' with those wingbacks it was inevitable.

    Still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Yeah, we’re fucked.

    Journos who read this board I’ll write you a question for your next opportunity: “The club has allowed the 3rd most goals in MLS this year and has only registered 2 MLS clean sheets in the last two seasons. With Carlos Salcedo leaving, the backline situation appears to have been weakened; are there any plans to add another starting quality defender this window, and if not why?”
    I love this... i upvote it +10

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    DP moves take time

    The moving parts involved in this stuff is not like transfer window close day in Europe.

    That and do we really want them to make a quick DP move - we've been there & done that & the latest bad DP move is going to Greece.
    I hear you loud and clear, but then don't come out two weeks before the windows and say things are going to be transformational. You just set your self up for criticism

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    New Athletic piece on TFC https://theathletic.com/3418684/2022...richie-laryea/
    - Berna isn't a done deal yet. TFC has made a strong offer but he isn't sure if he wants to leave Europe
    - Additions to defense will likely be in the off season
    - Richie isn't coming to TFC, although Dallas and Vancouver are interested along with a couple offers in Europe
    - Being "buzzy" is the mandate at TFC and MLSE doesn't care what it costs
    - Everything TFC has done the past year is unprecedented and other teams/observers don't really know how to judge it (the good and bad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    - Additions to defense will likely be in the off season
    If this is the case, this year is shot. I have little confidence this team can make a run to the playoffs unless we have at least one CB addition. Mavinga and O’Neill are not going to cut it.

    Let’s not forget Osorio is out of contract after this year too. All the more reason for the club to push itself with signings. Otherwise additions will continually be less than subtractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    New Athletic piece on TFC https://theathletic.com/3418684/2022...richie-laryea/
    - Berna isn't a done deal yet. TFC has made a strong offer but he isn't sure if he wants to leave Europe
    - Additions to defense will likely be in the off season
    - Richie isn't coming to TFC, although Dallas and Vancouver are interested along with a couple offers in Europe
    - Being "buzzy" is the mandate at TFC and MLSE doesn't care what it costs
    - Everything TFC has done the past year is unprecedented and other teams/observers don't really know how to judge it (the good and bad)
    Hmmm… and yet several supposedly in-the-know local ‘journalists’ and online pundits have reported repeatedly that Berna was a “done deal” already.

    Strange… it’s almost as if they were “talking out of their asses.”

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    "They’re following that pattern again this summer, but it feels like this new crop of players — coupled with the inevitable additions that will come this offseason, particularly at the back — have better odds of getting TFC back on track."
    Here's the exact quote from The Athletic on defenders. It doesn't say they won't sign defenders this window, but it makes it seem defenders are coming in the offseason.

    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Hmmm… and yet several supposedly in-the-know local ‘journalists’ and online pundits have reported repeatedly that Berna was a “done deal” already.

    Strange… it’s almost as if they were “talking out of their asses.”
    Tom Bogert (one of the more reliable deal breakers) said "Nothing imminent or advanced between the Colorado Rapids and Toronto FC involving Mark-Anthony Kaye" and then he broke the deal three days letter. I find a lot of the US MLS journalists are really hesitate to say something is going to happen until the ink has fully dried and press releases are drawn up. That said, Singh is probably a bit premature with saying how close Berna is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Anyone who has watched world football, let alone MLS knows that when a new coach comes in systems and preferred players change. Why is this a surprise?



    My late dad was all set to move into his just purchased condo when he had a stroke. Perfect plan upended. Those sort of things happen to players' families too because they are human. You're implying that completely unexpected things never happen? Life isn't like that.
    22(?) players gone before the second window including two DPs while playing academy players out of position is extreme. Don’t think we’d see quite that turnover if Bradley wasn’t already involved in the club (even from a distance).
    Last edited by los sonadores; 07-12-2022 at 10:21 PM.

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    Figured the Berna discussions were stalling once Romano cooled off on it. Singh is irrelevant in this, he has no sources so his information is vapor.

    IF he doesn’t come I doubt we fill the 3 DPs this window.

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    this is a total clown show,we give away a DP to a potential playoff rival,without another dp confirmed.lawrence is starting every game and we are paying for that,auro is being paid by tfc,no d help this window,busy window my ass,more guys leaving then coming in the argo president is mr bs

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Hmmm… and yet several supposedly in-the-know local ‘journalists’ and online pundits have reported repeatedly that Berna was a “done deal” already.

    Strange… it’s almost as if they were “talking out of their asses.”
    Umm an Italian outlet said they were finalizing details early this week, this wasn't just local journos.

    I believe the deal is very close based on the info out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    New Athletic piece on TFC https://theathletic.com/3418684/2022...richie-laryea/
    - Berna isn't a done deal yet. TFC has made a strong offer but he isn't sure if he wants to leave Europe
    - Additions to defense will likely be in the off season
    - Richie isn't coming to TFC, although Dallas and Vancouver are interested along with a couple offers in Europe
    - Being "buzzy" is the mandate at TFC and MLSE doesn't care what it costs
    - Everything TFC has done the past year is unprecedented and other teams/observers don't really know how to judge it (the good and bad)
    So basically the club is mindlessly burning cash and has no idea how to build the roster.

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    https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano

    Toronto FC are closing on Federico Bernardeschi deal. Final details now discussed on contract before signing third Italian player after Insigne and Criscito. 🇨🇦🇮🇹 #TorontoFC

    Bernardeschi’s agents, checking the contracts and then it will be done.

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    And now DiMarzio says Berna to TFC is a done deal.

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    Four in a row - this will be great, I say!

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    https://twitter.com/ManuelVeth

    #TFCLive are closing in on making Federico Bernardeschi official soon per @FabrizioRomano. Also hearing from a club source that another Italian could be coming in soon. Toronto FC will have two DP slots when Carlos Salcedo leaves on July 15. 🇮🇹🔜🇨🇦

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    This is always how transfers work. Someone says it is done prematurely, the agent leaks something trying to get a couple extra bucks, the agent gets it and they close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    So basically the club is mindlessly burning cash and has no idea how to build the roster.
    If we don’t land Bernardeschi we should try and get Arsenal U23 player Reiss Nelson as a Young DP. He’s been out on loan in the Bundesliga and scored 10 goals for Hoffenheim, and then again to Feyernoord last year where he was less successful, with two in 21.

    But his contract is expiring, he’s young, fast and talented, will both perform and have strong resale back to Europe. Plus, whatever deal he gets after Arsenal (likely the Championshiop or League One) he won’t get what we could pay him as a young DP. And there’s evidence now from LA and others than a young DP is well-showcased in MLS.

    Anyway, just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil744 View Post
    https://twitter.com/ManuelVeth

    #TFCLive are closing in on making Federico Bernardeschi official soon per @FabrizioRomano. Also hearing from a club source that another Italian could be coming in soon. Toronto FC will have two DP slots when Carlos Salcedo leaves on July 15. 
    There are a looooot of European free agent striker names out there. Suarez is claiming five MLS clubs are in for him. Wouldn’t put it past Manning to think hype is more important than a DP defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    There are a looooot of European free agent striker names out there. Suarez is claiming five MLS clubs are in for him. Wouldn’t put it past Manning to think hype is more important than a DP defender.
    no chance we're in for a 35 year old striker dp.

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    2 months struggling does not equal "the team knows & I do that I'm leaving"

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    Hopefully we can get Bernardeschi announced by weeks end and into training soon after. Imagine the excitement knowing that both Insigne and Bernardeschi could debut on the 23rd together.

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    Do DP defenders (CB) work in this league? I feel like veteran MLS guys are more reliable in that spot. Or maybe the expectation is too high with DP and it underwhelms in that position.

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    Stejskal & Tenorio tend to look at things with the lens of roster movement having to make sense within what MLS does.

    TFC...doesn't do that.

    i.e. TFC going to change paradigms doesn't fit their paradigm

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Hmmm… and yet several supposedly in-the-know local ‘journalists’ and online pundits have reported repeatedly that Berna was a “done deal” already.

    Strange… it’s almost as if they were “talking out of their asses.”
    So looks like the in the know local journalists they knew exactly what they were talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    So looks like the in the know local journalists they knew exactly what they were talking about.
    I'll be ecstatic if they're correct. Our playoffs odds are currently hovering in the "grim"'zone.

    I'll be even happier if the other DP is a center half or defensive Midfielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    I'll be ecstatic if they're correct. Our playoffs odds are currently hovering in the "grim"'zone.

    I'll be even happier if the other DP is a center half or defensive Midfielder.

    Playoffs are not going to happen. They always were only really a potential but unlikely scenario - we would have to have hit on 2 decent youths, have Poz being able to work within the BB system & have Salcedo solidify our defence.

    Enough things went wrong for this scenario to not have much hope of working out this season.

    The Cup final though - that is doable.

 

 

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