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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Yeah, fair enough. Nobody is innocent here. List of notable guys who theyíve cut or overlooked (off the top of my head):

    Alistair Johnston
    Liam Millar
    MAK
    Tyler Pasher
    Jacen Russell-Rowe
    Ryan Raposso (meh, but he plays in the league)
    Didnít Oso get cut by Rongen at one point? Or was that someone else?

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    Priso for MAK is lazy if it happens. Fucking scout a player, Manning. Do we even have those anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    For the record, the end of this week marks the two week mark since Manning started spouting off about his signings.

    These guys canít close deals.
    Unfortunately it's starting to feel like this and I've given a lot of benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Priso for MAK is lazy if it happens. Fucking scout a player, Manning. Do we even have those anymore?
    Actually, please, Manning, DO NOT SCOUT A PLAYER. Scout a scout. Be a president.

    EDIT -- On second thought -- don't scout a scout either. Find a couple of people who would be really good at finding scouts. Get them to give you a shortlist of scouts. Then find another group of unrelated experts who can review that list and give you some recommendations. If necessary, pick from the top two recommendations based on your corporate outlook. That's being presidential.
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    MAK seems more like a Bob Bradley acquisition than a Manning one.

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    https://twitter.com/tombogert

    BREAKING: Toronto FC agree blockbuster deal to acquire Canada int'l Mark-Anthony Kaye from the Colorado Rapids, per sources. Kaye returns home, reunites with Bob Bradley.

    Rapids to receive:
    -Ralph Priso
    -Around $1m GAM
    -2023 int'l roster spot
    -TFC's first round SuperDraft pick

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    Thats... a lot

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    https://twitter.com/tombogert/status...Q4tadUtmf7eNZA

    Unfortunately, itís true. Looks like Priso is gone for MAK. Canít say Iím impressed with the Bradley/Manning team yet. A lot to give up for a guy you let walk a couple of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil744 View Post
    https://twitter.com/tombogert

    BREAKING: Toronto FC agree blockbuster deal to acquire Canada int'l Mark-Anthony Kaye from the Colorado Rapids, per sources. Kaye returns home, reunites with Bob Bradley.

    Rapids to receive:
    -Ralph Priso
    -Around $1m GAM
    -2023 int'l roster spot
    -TFC's first round SuperDraft pick
    Thanks, I hate it.

    Other than Insigne, who is a freak signing occurring only because we have owners, thankfully, inexplicably willing to put money in a dumpster fire and watch it burn, we have traded ourselves continually into a worse position than where we started and it's gotten worse since Bob came in. The transfer window isn't even close to closed yet, so, they may still turn it around, but this continues to not be good.

    I'd trade the entire squad to have Bezbechenko back. That was a glorious couple of years when somebody who had some idea what they were doing was calling the shots. Hopefully our sheer level of money pit can buy us out of these pretty bad decisions
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    So our midfield is a lot stronger now...but still not much depth.

    I guess bernardeschi can slot in there if needed.

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    Wow, love MAK (get him on the field tomorrow) he knows Bradleys system. Sad that it was Priso, and if i am Bernie's agent... If i didn't asking for more when we announced Poz, I start asking for more now.

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    Fire Manning.

    1 MILLION GAM + PRISO + INTL SPOT

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    This is crazy. This is what Colorado payed for him a year ago:

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/sourc...ckbuster-trade
    "Colorado sent $1 million in General Allocation Money (GAM) and a 2022 international roster slot to LAFC for a first-round pick in the 2022 MLS SuperDraft. LAFC will also receive additional GAM if Kaye reaches certain performance-based incentives"

    This better pay off because Bradley is really appearing to be inflexible. I'm not convinced.

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    This is a beyond garbage deal. Just blatantly lazy. Absolutely fleeced.

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    Can you say highway robbery for Colorado Rapids; what a horrible trade

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    This is a beyond garbage deal. Just blatantly lazy. Absolutely fleeced.
    I'd love to know how much thought beyond his passport and Bob Bradley knows the guy went into this. I just can't wrap my head around it. Really hoping he proves me wrong but I don't see how this is a good deal overall for us

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    I have no problem rooting for the back half of this season to tank so that Manning can be removed from the club.

    We arenít winning anything this year anyway. Manning is a fucking liability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    This is a beyond garbage deal. Just blatantly lazy. Absolutely fleeced.
    To be clear I am saying the same thing, mine was laced with sarcasm… did we say no to anything Colorado asked for? But if it is done we can’t take it out on MAK, get him on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoesphNdo View Post

    I'd trade the entire squad to have Bezbechenko back. That was a glorious couple of years when somebody who had some idea what they were doing was calling the shots. Hopefully our sheer level of money pit can buy us out of these pretty bad decisions
    Calm down man. He had a ton of busts as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabbronies View Post
    Calm down man. He had a ton of busts as well
    Nobody bats 1,000. He also had a coherent strategy, traded incredibly well and assembled one of the best squads in MLS history. Even take out our DPs and we were incredible. We've been run by rank amateurs since then who are only propped up by having bottomless cash to mask how bad their strategy and decisions have been, just as we were before he joined

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    The only good thing about this is that two CANMNT players should be getting minutes in environments where they can succeed.

    This is not a good deal. We paid too much.

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    How does Manning and co. manage to make it look like they are on the losing end of every deal or they canít close deals, period. Thereís no way there is so much smoke and no fire. Iím so tired of being frustrated with this team and organization. Itís like the team is actually run by Bell and Rogers!

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    Yeah. That is awful. Paying for the passport.

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    This is the kind of deal that just stinks of people not knowing what their doing in the front office.

    Youíre telling me no one (ZERO) people in the front office said ďuhhh maybe not give everything for MAKĒ? And if they did whoever pushed this through was clearly arrogant to give them the finger on it.

    Running an operation is not the same as bringing major transactions across the line.

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    Jesus christ everyone on here is close to self harm.

    This is a good move. Kaye has played in a Bob Bradley system incredibly effectively in the past, will slot in seamlessly and make us a lot more solid in the middle.

    Amount of GAM in the league has gone up so yeah it will seem higher.

    End of the day we are a far more complete team with poz out + berna and Kaye in.

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    How is it close to no one sees this trade as good and yet the professionals Manning and Bradley find this to be a fair trade; it seems like management is inept at their positions

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracos View Post
    How is it close to no one sees this trade as good and yet the professionals Manning and Bradley find this to be a fair trade; it seems like management is inept at their positions
    In their defence, they do see things we don't and have access to information we don't. Fans mostly agreeing on something doesn't make it right. Off the top of my head this board was united that trading away issey nakajima-farran was a mistake and he was a good player - it wasn't and he isn't. And that we should have signed that one guy who had one good game against us in CCL that Montreal signed, and that we'd massively regret it when they did. We didn't.

    So we as fans get it wrong alot. But, with the information we have, it's very hard to justify this trade as a good one. Or, their overall strategy as anything other than a bit of a mess propped up by bottomless cash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil744 View Post
    https://twitter.com/tombogert

    BREAKING: Toronto FC agree blockbuster deal to acquire Canada int'l Mark-Anthony Kaye from the Colorado Rapids, per sources. Kaye returns home, reunites with Bob Bradley.

    Rapids to receive:
    -Ralph Priso
    -Around $1m GAM
    -2023 int'l roster spot
    -TFC's first round SuperDraft pick
    Love this deal! Welcome home, MAK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    Jesus christ everyone on here is close to self harm.

    This is a good move. Kaye has played in a Bob Bradley system incredibly effectively in the past, will slot in seamlessly and make us a lot more solid in the middle.

    Amount of GAM in the league has gone up so yeah it will seem higher.

    End of the day we are a far more complete team with poz out + berna and Kaye in.
    No one's complaining because this hurts us on the pitch. We know he'll make us stronger.
    It's still a fleecing, costing us an exceptional prospect. That, plus a draft pick plus a million.

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    Bright side: we are a better team. Kaye is a top notch box to box midfielder in MLS.

 

 

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