An interesting rumor cropping up in Brazil is that we have been negotiating with Sao Paulo a swap deal that would send Soteldo to them and we would get Rodrigo Nestor back in return. Looks to be a defensive midfielder. 21 years old.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/rodrigo...spieler/468304
On the face of it a very solid acquisition, but given his age, supposed value and the fact that he played 55 games in his FIRST year with the first team, he's almost certainly a DP quality player.Originally Posted by MikeForbes
So we have to ask ourselves if it's likely an MLS club spends a DP salary on a pivot, on a team that already has four players who can fill that spot.
If he's coming on TAM salary because his relative age and inexperience (and the lower Brazil salaries) allow it, I could definitely see it. But he's probably more highly regarded than that.
I suspect he could fit using the U22 rule, no?
Sound like it.
https://broadwaysportsmedia.com/mls-...22-initiative/
These slots will be part of the club’s senior roster (slots 1-20). Teams can have up to three U22 Initiative players, but this depends on the number of Designated Players they have.
- If a club has an open DP slot, the club will have three available U22 spots
- If a club signs a third DP, their U22 slots will be impacted as follows:
- If the third DP is a Young DP (23 and under), the club will have all three U22 slots
- If the third DP is 24 or older, but is at or below the maximum TAM amount ($1,612,500), the club will have all three U22 slots
- If the third DP is 24 or older, and is above the maximum TAM amount, that club will only have on U22 slot
If a club sells a U22 player, they’re able to keep 100% of the transfer fee and convert a percentage of that fee to GAM.
Last edited by RealG-TFC; 12-19-2021 at 01:22 PM.
Every year, this league's rules seem more arcane and more like a home-designed strategy game of some sort.
This depends on what BB thinks/wants and possible movement. Michael's days as an every match player are done, Osorio might move on and Delgado as well. If these things happen then it makes sense to use a young DP spot on a pivot like this.
Rodrigo Nestor looks like a very good passer with HUGE upside. Hope this happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvgXXR5I8w
Dude is a baller!
It looks like he has a lot better vision on the field, and more maturity, more a team player than Soteldo.
But of course not as flashy as Soteldo.
At the end of the day for TFC he can add more "useful value" than Soteldo added.
Last edited by PizzaEatingYeti; 12-20-2021 at 03:00 AM.
Glurghh...double no. 10s with Pozuelo... I'm having a homer-with-a-porkchop moment at the prospect.
What a talent.
Dude seems to have quite a bit of skill for a box-to-box/pivot midfielder. Definitely intriguing...
So apparently we made an offer sans Soteldo, probably as an u22 DM. Sao Paolo want $10M for him, but they're allegedly discussing a Soteldo swap where we eat some of Yefe's salary.
Yeah this makes a lot more sense. Any 21 year old getting featured like this by a São Paulo is worth a lot of money.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
Nobody’s checked Jozy’s liked tweets for a while eh
These boards are well monitored the tweet is already unliked. Jozy liked the tweet linked below commenting that he would be accepted at Corinthians following leaving TFC. Already have screenshots, so not sure what good unliking the tweet does lol.
https://twitter.com/samusccp/status/...917153283?s=21
Fair, although depending on his quality… maybe we don’t have similar options. I think about Joao Paolo on Seattle, he’s like a more-modern 2017 Bradley. Does all the defensive stuff but can also play like splitting passes from deep. That’s very much worth it if that’s what we get.
Although, in my estimation, Ralph Priso has been pretty f’n good and I’d be sort of pissed if we blocked our own player with a more expensive import.
Last edited by ag futbol; 12-19-2021 at 05:58 PM.
If this is true, I bet Nestor would be a loan to us, or a lot of money is going back the other way. Soteldo doesn’t have sell on value, but this kid still might.
I don’t see it happening at all really. Only Almiron pulled this off, no one else has executed the South America to MLS to Europe move profitably. I don't see a major Brazilian team moving a player like this for the equivalent of a couple of million bucks.
Last edited by ensco; 12-19-2021 at 06:08 PM.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
yefe has a higher value than nestor at the moment.i think it would be a trade of some sort.
I think Sao Paulo would rather send a player as opposed to paying a fee to Toronto. A lot of Brazilian teams are in a ton of financial trouble right now. God knows if it is legit or not, but Nestor definitely would be a great use of that u-22 slot.
Also, based on a poll among Sao Paulo fans it looks like the majority are on board with sending Nestor for Soteldo.
Maybe this is our “way out” of sorts. Similar to plugging Jozy for Defoe. The appearance of a trade hides the reality of the transaction.
In this case, nobody in South America is going to pay Solteldo what we pay him. But we throw in a player coming back and pay some sort of fee … it gets less obvious we are paying down his salary or something of the sort.
Soteldo is routinely referred to as “one of the most important players in South America” in the Brazilian press.
I guess he had a great goal that knocked Boca out of the Copa America that cemented his legend there.
Probably not us, but
Check out this tweet at https://twitter.com/GalindoPW/status/1472774340877828100
That's not ideal for Canada. Looks like he won't be playing leading into the next IB.
Why not us?
I don't read that much into our having protected Bono and Q.
"There are some people who might have better technique than me, and some may be fitter than me, but the main thing is tactics. With most players, tactics are missing. You can divide tactics into insight, trust, and daring." - Johan Cruyff
Bono only has a year left so if they feel he's unsalvageable, they might well just choose to eat that salary hit and bring another goalie in. I doubt Serbian football is paying him a ton, so it's unlikely we'd be looking at a TAM or DP situation.
Plus, if they've accepted they might eat his salary for a year without him playing, they might try and loan him out, give him a chance to sell himself elsewhere before his deal expires.
Having said all that, Montreal seems more likely. Pantemis isn't a starting quality keeper, I don't think.
The Serbian league is on a winter break from now through Feb 12, so he wouldn't have been playing anyways
Ah, thanks.
would love to have Borjan in Toronto. Would also cut the amount of international travel he has to do for the CMNT
Watched some of the same highlights of Nestor I am sure you guys did and... Yes, please.
Can really pick a pass, and good in the tackle too. Only one goal in the highlight reel, so have to assume he doesn't score much, if ever. Interesting choice of music too.
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