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    Default RIP Paul Mariner

    Thought it deserved it's own thread.





    Last edited by Brooker; 07-10-2021 at 05:10 AM.

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    68 is young these days and it's a tragedy to go this way. He'll be remembered as a great player.

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    Sad day. Paul brought in one of my favourite players from those early TFC teams, Reggie Lambe. Paul will be missed in MLS circles.

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    RIP Paul

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    Brutal news. Can't imagine the pandemic helped

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    He will always be a legend for those who followed Ipswich Town in the 70’s and 80’s. Great player and I certainly have the impression the kind of person who could tell a tale over a pint or two. It’s a lovely and well written notice as well. Sad for the family

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    Seemed like a likeable guy. Sorry for his family and friends, and the people around the Revs who love him.

    Mariner actually had a decent start here as a manager (I don't remember exactly, but it was something like 4 wins and 3 draws in his first 10 games). It was a competitive looking team with Koevermans, Frings, Silva playing well…then the DPs got hurt and the bottom fell out.

    Not looking to reevaluate the Mariner era (he made that Hassli trade which was an epic disaster, he was definitely not the best GM) … just saying that him becoming some sort of metaphor for a bad manager was a bit unfair, when you look at the record.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    The crew at ESPN FC dedicated today’s extra time video to Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w00ZVIKTRg

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    Rest in peace. To bad he couldn't watch England tomorrow.

    He had one of the best goal celebrations for us, I can't find it at the moment.

    All around good person by all accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Rest in peace. To bad he couldn't watch England tomorrow.

    He had one of the best goal celebrations for us, I can't find it at the moment.

    All around good person by all accounts.
    Was that when he gave the elbow fuck you to the fans behind the bench giving him abuse all game?

    Hah loved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooker View Post
    Was that when he gave the elbow fuck you to the fans behind the bench giving him abuse all game?

    Hah loved it.
    Yeah that's the legendary moment, you won't find anyone these days try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yeah that's the legendary moment, you won't find anyone these days try that.

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    RIP. He was far too young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benito View Post
    The crew at ESPN FC dedicated today’s extra time video to Paul.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w00ZVIKTRg
    Incredible tribute. Perhaps the existing narrative about Pauls time with TFC needs to be revisited. Brilliant player. Lovely man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Incredible tribute. Perhaps the existing narrative about Pauls time with TFC needs to be revisited. Brilliant player. Lovely man.
    His record as a coach is objectively there in black and white and that won't change, but the narrative here of how he ended up in charge definitely should be revisited. John Molinaro on his video blog (subscription) speaks about him being a man of strong character. Certainly not the Machiavellian schemer that some of us concluded he was after he replaced Aron Winter.

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    Great player, not-so-great coach, but my memory of him will always be that game at Stade Saputo where they won 3-0 and him celebrating on the sideline. RIP.

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    sad to hear this, it's easy to forget, how good a player he actually was, sometimes that can be forgotten. RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlington Red View Post
    sad to hear this, it's easy to forget, how good a player he actually was, sometimes that can be forgotten. RIP
    Sorry to hear this news too.
    I really enjoyed my talks with him during a TFC after match get-together years ago (in 2010?)
    The venue in a restaurant on the CNE grounds was shoulder to shoulder with crammed-in TFC fans so most of the players stayed in the back
    Every once and a while a player would come out and get swarmed with fans then go back behind the "curtain"
    I got Eckersley's autograph and pix with me before he had enough of the pushing and shoving all around us and then he left too
    The crowd booed Mariner earlier so he stood up near the bar in the corner all alone so that is where I went too to get away from the crowd
    I was pleased to speak with him and he would go behind the "curtain" and bring players out to meet me and to get their autograph
    Then the players would retreat back to an area that was just for the players and I'm sure they wanted the madness to end asap.

    Thanks Paul Mariner for the memories . . .

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    https://www.theguardian.com/football...riner-obituary

    It's a well-written and complete piece, with telling comments about his stature in England underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    His record as a coach is objectively there in black and white and that won't change, but the narrative here of how he ended up in charge definitely should be revisited. John Molinaro on his video blog (subscription) speaks about him being a man of strong character. Certainly not the Machiavellian schemer that some of us concluded he was after he replaced Aron Winter.
    Yes, thats what I meant. Certainly doesn't sound like him at all given all the obits. Should be eliminated from the narrative.

    Comments in the jloome post of the guardiam article are great.

 

 

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