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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    ^There really is something in his gait (the way he puffs his chest out arches his back) and of course his size... he really is Seba v2.0
    He kinda reminds me of Maradonna in that way too. We'll see how good he is at punching the ball maybe.

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    His latest tweet shows him at the international terminal of SP Guarulhos airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    Are Brazilians not allowed to enter the US at all right now or is there a quarantine? What are they trying to get him an exemption from exactly?
    This is the USA, hate to be cynical but if you have money and influence, you get in the country. Key will be Negative Covid Test. Paragraph below from April 23 release. So getting him the country shouldn't be the issue. I think it will be more of MLS and our teams rules.

    All international travellers must present a negative COVID-19 test result dated no more than 72 hours prior to departure. This includes U.S. citizens and permanent residents. In addition, masks are now required to be worn at airports, trains, public maritime vessels, intercity buses, and all forms of public transportation.

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    • Whilst there are a number of exceptions, entry remains at the discretion of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency.
    • U.S. citizens or green card holders as well as their spouses, parents, minor children, and select others can enter the U.S. through authorized airports after having visited the above countries but must go through a health screening and present a negative COVID-19 test.
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    For those of you like me, who like to rely on video game ratings, Soteldo is a 79 in PES2021.

    Considering he is only 23, I don’t want to get too excited but this is looking positive. I sure hope he can deliver.

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    For those who don’t listen, Tim Vickery spoke about him on the World Football Phone In last night.

    -Possible reason he didn’t move to Europe; Venezuelans don’t have the same cache as a Brazilians or Argentines and due to his small size
    -A player he really enjoyed watching and will be a great addition to MLS
    -Right footed but is also very good with his left so he can dribble either way causing the defenders to guess which way he will go
    -Really wanted to come to Toronto and MLS
    -Santos needed to sell as they still hadn’t paid for him and were facing a transfer ban because of it

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    https://theathletic.com/2547278/2021...do-toronto-fc/

    Kloke has a piece on our process of landing Soteldo. Highlights:
    -His salary in Brazil was only $660,000/year. He is getting a big pay increase to come to TFC.
    -TFC has been tracking him since 2018. TFC was able to do some in person scouting of him prior to the pandemic as well, which made the team more comfortable acquiring him
    -With the pandemic making it nearly impossible to watch players in game, TFC management didn't want to introduce any new DP targets to their shortlist that they hadn't previously seen in person.
    -At the end Kloke mentions that Soteldo was not TFC's primary DP target. Perhaps Borre was our first choice?
    -People describe him as "fun", however he's a very serious player and meets everything that's expected of him.
    -Kloke has some great analysis on his technical abilities, including videos so worth checking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    https://theathletic.com/2547278/2021...do-toronto-fc/

    Kloke has a piece on our process of landing Soteldo. Highlights:
    -His salary in Brazil was only $660,000/year. He is getting a big pay increase to come to TFC.
    -TFC has been tracking him since 2018. TFC was able to do some in person scouting of him prior to the pandemic as well, which made the team more comfortable acquiring him
    -With the pandemic making it nearly impossible to watch players in game, TFC management didn't want to introduce any new DP targets to their shortlist that they hadn't previously seen in person.
    -At the end Kloke mentions that Soteldo was not TFC's primary DP target. Perhaps Borre was our first choice?
    -People describe him as "fun", however he's a very serious player and meets everything that's expected of him.
    -Kloke has some great analysis on his technical abilities, including videos so worth checking out.
    Kloke has some good stuff here, but his heroic description of the TFC process ... omg... it has a lack of distance, shall we say.
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    https://theathletic.com/2547278/2021...do-toronto-fc/

    Kloke has a piece on our process of landing Soteldo. Highlights:
    -His salary in Brazil was only $660,000/year. He is getting a big pay increase to come to TFC.
    -TFC has been tracking him since 2018. TFC was able to do some in person scouting of him prior to the pandemic as well, which made the team more comfortable acquiring him
    -With the pandemic making it nearly impossible to watch players in game, TFC management didn't want to introduce any new DP targets to their shortlist that they hadn't previously seen in person.
    -At the end Kloke mentions that Soteldo was not TFC's primary DP target. Perhaps Borre was our first choice?
    -People describe him as "fun", however he's a very serious player and meets everything that's expected of him.
    -Kloke has some great analysis on his technical abilities, including videos so worth checking out.
    I do think it is safe to say that Borré was option one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    I do think it is safe to say that Borré was option one.
    KJ just confirmed on OneSoccer that the team's number one priority for the DP spot was a striker, so all signs point to Borre.

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    OneSoccer mentioning 5 day quarantine for Yefe...according to the airport post maybe today counts as day 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    KJ just confirmed on OneSoccer that the team's number one priority for the DP spot was a striker, so all signs point to Borre.

    KJ also mentioned, almost in passing, a few minutes before that a great nugget of info about all this

    Cruz Azul was VERY close to signing Jozy this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokecell View Post
    OneSoccer mentioning 5 day quarantine for Yefe...according to the airport post maybe today counts as day 1?
    Yeah. I think next weekend is his likely debut. Give him a few training sessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Yeah. I think next weekend is his likely debut. Give him a few training sessions.
    If he wants to earn his sainthood in record time let him drop 4 at Azteca next Tuesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Kloke has some good stuff here, but his heroic description of the TFC process ... omg... it has a lack of distance, shall we say.
    It reads like utter fiction.

    I imagine what happened is Borre's agent is based in Brazil, and everything involving South American Football is pored over there with a fine-toothed comb.

    Soteldo wasn't getting paid on time, the team was in financial trouble and his agent saw us pull out of Borre. Not a week later, we're all over this other dude?

    Yeah, sure, they were working on it for years. It wasn't that Soteldo's agent called us and said "you can afford my client" when it was obvious we were in the market. Uh uh. That never happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    It reads like utter fiction.

    I imagine what happened is Borre's agent is based in Brazil, and everything involving South American Football is pored over there with a fine-toothed comb.

    Soteldo wasn't getting paid on time, the team was in financial trouble and his agent saw us pull out of Borre. Not a week later, we're all over this other dude?

    Yeah, sure, they were working on it for years. It wasn't that Soteldo's agent called us and said "you can afford my client" when it was obvious we were in the market. Uh uh. That never happens.


    Dude you spitting nails all week - if this is post vaccine symptoms, STOP SCARING THE MILLENIALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    It reads like utter fiction.

    I imagine what happened is Borre's agent is based in Brazil, and everything involving South American Football is pored over there with a fine-toothed comb.

    Soteldo wasn't getting paid on time, the team was in financial trouble and his agent saw us pull out of Borre. Not a week later, we're all over this other dude?

    Yeah, sure, they were working on it for years. It wasn't that Soteldo's agent called us and said "you can afford my client" when it was obvious we were in the market. Uh uh. That never happens.
    He has the same agent as Josef and Gallardo. I'm sure he was calling up TFC but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. The familiarity likely made the process go a lot smoother here since he understands how MLS works and they have a working relationship with TFC and MLS HQ.

    I wouldn't be surprised if when we were signing Gallardo a few years ago, Soteldo came up in those discussions but it couldn't work from a budget perspective.

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    ^This is the price of access. TFC gives the reporter some good stuff on the player, and in return, the reporter takes stenography on the perfect fit of the player and the version of events around the signing the club wants out there.

    This happened with Pozo too.

    Ali, you forgot to dictate the bit about screening for character for months. (I guess Manning is finally over vdW.)

    The first thing that was mentioned about Yefe on ExtraTime, where they really have been talking about this player for years, was that he is perfect for Vanney's system but maybe not Armas' 4-4-2 with a high press, because he doesn’t defend. They then discussed how it might work with Armas after that. They managed this without being very critical of the signing, it was just intelligent discussion. That is what independent commentary looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
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    The first thing that was mentioned about Yefe on ExtraTime, where they really have been talking about this player for years, was that he is perfect for Vanney's system but maybe not Armas' 4-4-2 with a high press, because he doesn’t defend. They then discussed how it might work with Armas after that. They managed this without being very critical of the signing, it was just intelligent discussion. That is what independent commentary looks like.

    Have you got a link for that as far as I can tell, they didn't discuss this on the Monday podcast - was this the Tuesday twitter thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Dude you spitting nails all week - if this is post vaccine symptoms, STOP SCARING THE MILLENIALS
    yeah, I don't know why that is


    I have skepticism because we have a lot of roster work to do, and most of it has been kicking around for two seasons, but we're getting sort of piece-meal versions. No line leader, instead we get a late-career Gonzalez, who is like a less-athletic, less mobile Mavinga. No resolution of the Jozy situation; Bradley waning but no sign he or the club will acknowledge it. When he was out last year and Delgado/Osorio were teamed up we looked killer in the middle. But....

    I get the sense there's more politics now, more inter-personal loyalty at play in the front office than shared improvement goals. More deviousness of the old school days, less openness and directness.

    I don't like that kind of environment. I was in the media for years and both lived in and covered it when high-pressure environments became about entrenchment and not evolution or progress.

    Also because tactically I'm not convinced that even if the high-press/middle block can work (Jim Curtin seems to be doing okay with it) that Armas is the dude.

    So I guess I'm just starting to sense that the club may be losing a little direction. We were one game off the Supporter's Shield and had a nine-game unbeaten run last year. I get that there were changes needed, to play the kids and to be more offensively aggressive. I'm just not sure this is a well-reasoned moved in that direction; it feels more like kids throwing paint at a wall than art, so far.

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    I mean, you can look at everything from what appears to be a negative perspective or try and see some positives.

    We’ve got the leagues MVP, and just added supposedly one of south America’s best. The guys are playing at least the first half season on the road and we have a new coach.

    There was always going to be an adjustment period so why not wait it out before proclaiming that the everything is wrong? I just don’t get the comment that the club is losing direction? We’re forging a new direction.

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    Come next week, we will have a very different team with Poz and Mavinga back, as well as Yefe.
    And, come to think of it, Westberg should be there too! Bonorelo has to go!!

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    Fresh off a flight from Brazil and on the ground in Orlando ...



    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    Welcome Soteldo!

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    soteldo posted a goodbye clip on Instagram. 11,300+ comments. I can’t understand Portuguese but you can tell from the video what an honour it was for him to be their #10. Seems like they are extremely sad to see him go.

    I just can’t wait to watch this guy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barticusz View Post
    We’re forging a new direction.
    There are forks in the road, we can't see what's at the end of them.

    People can see realism as 'negativity' all they want. But Red Bull's football organization is pretty damn successful, and pretty damn efficient. Witness how they brought Jesse Marsch -- the guy they went with over Ali -- along in Austria, and now the Bundesliga.

    The guy they went with in that dispute has had nothing but success, as has Julian Nagelsmann, whom RB brought along in his late Twenties and is now Bayern Munich's youngest ever manager.

    The guy who replaced Jesse Marsch -- our new coach -- they did not want to keep.

    Those are NOT definitive statements, but reasons for concern are not "being negative", they're seeing both the potential and the pitfalls.

    I'm not saying they're going to fail; I'm saying they have the burden of prior experience against them, the burden of comparison with prior administration against them.

    That, and we've given up an average of three goals a game over the last three. That sort of worries me. I mean, it's not like we didn't know we had defensive problems two years ago. Even after Gonzalez, at the end of his career, joined up, we were still short competent backup.

    Two seasons, going into a third, and we still have roster holes. Seattle doesn't. Columbus doesn't. LAFC doesn't. Philadelphia lost two of its best players and it still doesn't.

    Competitive clubs in this league are past that era.

    I like playing the kids. I like Soteldo. I like most of our roster.

    I'm not sure yet that I like the tactical approach, the guy selling, or the dude who hired him. There's nothing with a club that has been one of the best in the league expecting the best.

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    So I guess, reading the Tea Leaves, TFC wanted to get younger/better/healthier at Striker. Was seriously in conversation with Borre. Borre let his ego and ambition get the better of him and wants to go to Europe when he saw what TFC was going to offer him.

    Still don't think Borre goes to Europe for the money TFC was offering but maybe as a free transfer? Or free transfer in the Summer for TFC when he finds the offers are not to his liking? I don't know.

    Then either Yefe's agent saw the drama and called TFC because they have money and are getting a rep as a BIG North American Team and a great launching pad to Europe as well.

    TFC JUMP at the opportunity to add a great asset are a depressed cost and solved ALL the problems with Yefe's former team. That is some great asset management!

    But it still doesn't seem that the FO has given up on that young Striker. Is JA that immovable? Mexico or another MLS squad couldn't take him of TFC's hands?

    I think the likely scenario is that they get the Striker (Borre) in the summer and sell JA at the same time.

    Or this is my optimistic opinion from a JUST a TFC fan (don't really have a team in Europe - Man U? - but I watch all the major tournaments, and trying to pick up strategy and I play FIFA 19)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    ^This is the price of access. TFC gives the reporter some good stuff on the player, and in return, the reporter takes stenography on the perfect fit of the player and the version of events around the signing the club wants out there.

    This happened with Pozo too.

    Ali, you forgot to dictate the bit about screening for character for months. (I guess Manning is finally over vdW.)

    The first thing that was mentioned about Yefe on ExtraTime, where they really have been talking about this player for years, was that he is perfect for Vanney's system but maybe not Armas' 4-4-2 with a high press, because he doesn’t defend. They then discussed how it might work with Armas after that. They managed this without being very critical of the signing, it was just intelligent discussion. That is what independent commentary looks like.
    There is also Kristian Jack, who mentioned on OneSoccer that he was a little surprised that the wide player the club chased was Yeferson, as he likes to cut in from the wing and as a result clutter the middle, as opposed to remaining wide to give the give the team spacing which is more in tune in what Toronto needs. He is the only local guy I heard give any hesitancy to the transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Have you got a link for that as far as I can tell, they didn't discuss this on the Monday podcast - was this the Tuesday twitter thing?
    It was in the CCL preview Monday, at the very end. I think.
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    i love the guy but jozy is a serious hindrance on our squad and has been since 2019.

    i would love to be proven wrong, but i cannot see a situation where he gets healthy for long enough to even find the sort of form he had in summer 2019, nevermind 2017, and he's stopping us bringing in a pozuelo calibre striker to complement poz and yefe.

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    While I do think his use of DP spot isn't great, I could see Yefe playing to Jozy's stregths and vice versa. I recall the interplay between Jozy and Gio being great; 1-2s here, flick-ons there. I can only hope that kind of play makes a return, for everyone's sake.

 

 

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