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    Moulinho taking Perruzza under his wing is actually kinda cool.

    A lot of people on our team are journeymen MLS types that we have gotten so used to we can't necessarily see that.

    Moulinho & Zavs & Delgado & Endoh - these sort of guys populate all teams in this league & if we let any of them go, other teams will pick them up.

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    My take on the list...

    Zavaleta - On a vet minimum right now. Happy to have him back as the 5th/4th choice CB, but team needs to add competition ahead of him.
    Singh - We probably have an option on him for him, as is typical for contracts for young players.
    Morrow - Same as Zav. Happy to have him back as the 5th choice LB/RB
    Priso - Probably have an option on him
    Okello - Probably have an option on him
    DeLeon - Time to move on
    Nelson - Probably have an option on him
    Gallardo - Time to move on
    Endoh - Fine for him to come back as a rotation player
    Akinola - Needs to come back, probably have an option
    Peruzza - Probably have an option
    Gonzalez - Time to move on, unless he wans to take a significant paycut to move in as our 3rd choice CB

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    Gonzalez - Time to move on, unless he wans to take a significant paycut to move in as our 3rd choice CB
    In my opinion he should be below Zavaleta on the CB depth chart now so unless he is willing to sign for vet minimum money then he needs to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    In my opinion he should be below Zavaleta on the CB depth chart now so unless he is willing to sign for vet minimum money then he needs to go.
    Agreed, Zavaleta is better than him. Realistically, Gonzalez is done. Zavaleta should be a sub. With so much cash being freed the new coach should be shopping next year. Curtis should restrict himself to capologist, if he's even around.

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    it's actually incredible that the club didn't do anything this transfer window.

    just smacks of incompetence and complacency.

    the only justification would be if they were planning a full revamp of the squad in the summer and know there is generally less value in the summer market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    In my opinion he should be below Zavaleta on the CB depth chart now so unless he is willing to sign for vet minimum money then he needs to go.
    That works for me too, no complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Curtis should restrict himself to capologist, if he's even around.
    You mean this type of cap right? This I can accept because he hasn't exactly managed our salary cap very well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    You mean this type of cap right? This I can accept because he hasn't exactly managed our salary cap very well.

    As long as he's the guy drinking it, not the guy pouring it. If he were pouring it, he'd go into a labored speech about putting all his ducks in order in an extremely positive spirit, blinking so hard he'd miss the cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    As long as he's the guy drinking it, not the guy pouring it. If he were pouring it, he'd go into a labored speech about putting all his ducks in order in an extremely positive spirit, blinking so hard he'd miss the cup.
    You’ve got it all wrong. The cup would be empty and he would (vaguely) acknowledge as much in corporate babble speak and put a two-week deadline to fill the cup.

    Then, when the deadline passes, there would be no further update and we’d be left confused to whether anything has actually happened.

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    I hear Sergio Agüero now want's to leave Barcelona. For the love of god MLSE do something. Bring back the excitement.

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    How is Ali still here…..this guy is letting this team rot right in front of our eyes. He got his chance to make changes and he did absolutely nothing. He is literally milking every penny while doing absolutely nothing.

    Please show some desire to win again, the players know there’s no hope. Looks like the mentality of everyone is just to hold on until the end of the season, not win. Who goes for draws AT HOME in the position we’re at…..comon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khso11 View Post
    How is Ali still here…..this guy is letting this team rot right in front of our eyes. He got his chance to make changes and he did absolutely nothing. He is literally milking every penny while doing absolutely nothing.

    Please show some desire to win again, the players know there’s no hope. Looks like the mentality of everyone is just to hold on until the end of the season, not win. Who goes for draws AT HOME in the position we’re at…..comon!
    In the end we were among just three teams that didn't cut a deal: Columbus, New England and us.... and New England has a potential transfer imminent that can take place outside our window, because they're intra-league, with Tajon Buchanan about to be signed by Club Brugge to a deal beginning next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsandTFC View Post
    it's actually incredible that the club didn't do anything this transfer window.

    just smacks of incompetence and complacency.

    the only justification would be if they were planning a full revamp of the squad in the summer and know there is generally less value in the summer market.
    I'm assuming you mean, planning a full revamp in the winter... In fact, we often hear that there's more available in the summer, as that's the primary transfer market for many leagues, between their seasons. Winter transfers often leave the other team hanging for the rest of their season, as happened with Pozuelo and his Belgian team. In the winter you often get the guys that some team just wants to dump; not the most desirable targets.

    In any case, I think that there are usually good deals to be made both in the winter and summer, if the team knows how to look (and has any cap space). But it often takes a couple of windows to get settled, as you won't find everything you need all at once, especially if major changes are required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    In the end we were among just three teams that didn't cut a deal: Columbus, New England and us.... and New England has a potential transfer imminent that can take place outside our window, because they're intra-league, with Tajon Buchanan about to be signed by Club Brugge to a deal beginning next year.
    So basically, the run-away first place team loaded with talent, the defending champions sitting in a playoff spot, and us (sitting in the basement).

    Part of me is okay with this in the sense I just want to see Curtis leave rather than do any more damage. But the other part of me wonders if the board is legitimately asleep at the switch and does not understand how badly Curtis (and potentially Manning) are handling things.

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    2020 Draft Pick Nyal Higgins loaned from TFCII to Atletico Ottawa in Canadian Premier League

    https://www.torontofc.ca/news/toront...tletico-ottawa
    Last edited by rydermike; 08-07-2021 at 10:27 AM. Reason: fix grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    If you have lost confidence in your management team, you don’t allow them to do anything.

    Did anyone else notice that someone with an actual sports management background finally joined the suits on the MLSE Board as Vice Chairman this week?

    Masai Ujiri

    Anybody know what sport Masai played as a kid? He was pretty good at it too (Hint: not basketball)
    Masai is the Raptors vice chair not a MLSE vice chair.
    https://www.nba.com/news/masai-ujiri...team-president

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    If you have lost confidence in your management team, you don’t allow them to do anything.
    Yup. I think Manning is hanging Curtis and the 2021 season out to dry. He isn't deluded. He knows we're not capable of keeping a 2 ppg pace to make the playoffs and we have a bunch of bad contracts and no cap space or allocation money to work with. Just let it ride and whatever happens, happens. That's why Curtis is still here and Perez was appointed as interim. At season's end Manning can jettison them along with a bunch of expiring contracts and target the blame where he wants. Will be easier to pitch a rebuild at that time and focus the rebuild around Soteldo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra & Proud View Post
    Yup. I think Manning is hanging Curtis and the 2021 season out to dry. He isn't deluded. He knows we're not capable of keeping a 2 ppg pace to make the playoffs and we have a bunch of bad contracts and no cap space or allocation money to work with. Just let it ride and whatever happens, happens. That's why Curtis is still here and Perez was appointed as interim. At season's end Manning can jettison them along with a bunch of expiring contracts and target the blame where he wants. Will be easier to pitch a rebuild at that time and focus the rebuild around Soteldo.
    i think manning should also be on thin ice,he hired curtis,didnt even do a search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie View Post
    i think manning should also be on thin ice,he hired curtis,didnt even do a search.
    Thin ice is sort of his MO.

    When he was in Tampa, he walked into a club that was stacked to win and had a great coach, and was named executive of the year in his second season.

    And then the club folded at the end of said season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxx98 View Post
    Masai is the Raptors vice chair not a MLSE vice chair.
    https://www.nba.com/news/masai-ujiri...team-president
    I withdraw the comment
    “What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Thin ice is sort of his MO.

    When he was in Tampa, he walked into a club that was stacked to win and had a great coach, and was named executive of the year in his second season.

    And then the club folded at the end of said season.
    Great team - couldn't draw flies.


    Rebuild is going to happen.


    My question is the academy - we were lead to believe that when Vanney came in 2014 that the situation was so bad that the first group to start after the revamp would be the future hope - those kids are only 15. We might see a few of them in the next 3 years. BUT, mangement has to bite the bullet & understand that if you want a successful academy to first team pipeline, you can't squeeze it off at the first team. Not saying we should go full Philly with a mandate for kids minutes per game but something better then what we have now. ESPECIALLY if the season is going down the tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jloome View Post
    Thin ice is sort of his MO.

    When he was in Tampa, he walked into a club that was stacked to win and had a great coach, and was named executive of the year in his second season.

    And then the club folded at the end of said season.
    Jumped ship at RSL because he couldn’t figure out how to rebuild. Lagerwey clearly the brains of that operation. Manning seems to just identify good situations and take advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Great team - couldn't draw flies.
    They drew 10,000 a game in a league that was averaging 14,000 a game at the time, so not catastrophic, but not good. They were just one of the worst two for a bunch of Florida-related reasons (many of which now plague Beckham) and in a cost-shared league...adios, little guys.

    Either way, you'd think actually be able to draw at least in the teens would be a requirement of the executive of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    My question is the academy - we were lead to believe that when Vanney came in 2014 that the situation was so bad that the first group to start after the revamp would be the future hope - those kids are only 15. We might see a few of them in the next 3 years. BUT, mangement has to bite the bullet & understand that if you want a successful academy to first team pipeline, you can't squeeze it off at the first team.
    Yeah, completely. They just haven't gotten close to enough time. If they simply aren't even close, at least the question of why our dev pipeline is so poor needs to be asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Jumped ship at RSL because he couldn’t figure out how to rebuild. Lagerwey clearly the brains of that operation. Manning seems to just identify good situations and take advantage.
    As Ensco pointed, he's a corporate survivor. I'd give even odds that he goes to a new role somewhere before cleaning up here. It's probably easier for him that trying to stay and make good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    My question is the academy - we were lead to believe that when Vanney came in 2014 that the situation was so bad that the first group to start after the revamp would be the future hope - those kids are only 15. We might see a few of them in the next 3 years. BUT, mangement has to bite the bullet & understand that if you want a successful academy to first team pipeline, you can't squeeze it off at the first team. Not saying we should go full Philly with a mandate for kids minutes per game but something better then what we have now. ESPECIALLY if the season is going down the tubes.
    Youth development is notoriously fickle and unpredictable. The academies chop-and-change players all the time and there are wild swings year-to-year in the perception of a youth players future potential.

    Anyone who tells you we can’t have good crop of prospects today because we didn’t groom them properly in 2016 is full of it.

    Meaningful yields possible in 2-3 years if done right.

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    Liam Fraser is playing CB tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Youth development is notoriously fickle and unpredictable. The academies chop-and-change players all the time and there are wild swings year-to-year in the perception of a youth players future potential.

    Anyone who tells you we can’t have good crop of prospects today because we didn’t groom them properly in 2016 is full of it.

    Meaningful yields possible in 2-3 years if done right.
    90 percent of academy players all over the world don’t make it to the first team. It’s a big reason why clubs are now focusing on developing second and third paths for players who won’t make it. At the end of the day, if football isn’t their future, they need to be prepared to get into university or college. Those failed prospects could be the next Bezbatchenko (a failed college prospect) or the coaches at your local youth set up.

    The fact that we now have Achara/Akinola, Priso, Singh, and Nelson playing minutes is a miracle in and of itself.

    If you can promote two or three academy players per year, that’s already an incredible yield.

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    Does anyone really know why we spent money on Dwyer (btw I am sure he is a nice guy) but we already had Altidore, Akinola, Mullinho and Peruzza. Why did we need another less than fast target man? and for two years?

    Armas and Ali must have had plans to try to humiliate Jozy from the start. One of those, make it my team moves and Dwyer was a backup with potential upside..

    I am not being an ass but I genuinely cannot figure it out. (can't even say reclamation project). What a wrong use of resources when we could have tried for someone younger and faster (sorry I don't see the pace with Peruzza) and that is what Poz and Soteldo want, Achara looked great (please stay healthy). Or even the CB reinforcement we wanted.

    Stating earlier this week that Achara is like a new signing is bullshit and a deflection.

    If Ali is betting on a re-tooling for next year, well then Ali has no place in this great club. #ALIOUT

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    ^ to clarify a bit, there is no way Armas banished Jozy on his own authority, he had to have Ali’s buy in. 7 games where he could have done more than the others, Ali should not get a get out of jail free card from Jozy, from the fans or from the club.

    Added to this, nothing in the window. Rebuild management before you rebuild the players and coach. #aliout

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    Since replacing the injured Andrew Jean Baptiste (yep, the former Portland center half) due to injury, Rocco Romeo's Valour FC are 0-4.

    Not a great look. Not that it means it's on him, but The Sun pointed out the turnaround.

    Some of that's probably just a leadership dearth, as he's a veteran player.

 

 

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