I wonder if there is any way Jozy makes the Gold cup squad, That would help optics Jozy playing for the US while being banished from the team paying his wages
Well TFC is going to eat Jozy's contract either way whether they like it or not. No player will ever re-negotiate an active contract to a lower wage, nor should be expected.
TFC either finds him a team so he can play(TFC possibly pay upwards of 80%) or they do the petty thing and make him sit out for the reminder of the deal while still paying him full for doing nothing.
It’s difficult because Manning/Curtis/Armas and yes Jozy have made sure there needs to be a loser. This is just stupid and it no longer matters whose right or wrong. The fans have lost and therefor MLSE/TFC and the league loses.
Why has the board let these amateurs loose on us, with what appears to be no governance.
Can trade outside the league but any salary still paid by TFC is charged against the cap. In essence, a trade of Jozy is only effective for the cap if the salary charge to TFC is less then the DP limit, $612,500. That's the only way a trade of Jozy makes sense. If they are not willing to take on enough to take the salary below the DP threshold, then we get no relief from Jozy being a DP.
In essence, if TFC traded Jozy & still paid more then the DP salary cap amount, MLSE would be getting money back but this would not help TFC as a team.
As for the buyout, no dice.Transfers and Loans
An MLS player may be transferred or loaned at any time to a non-MLS club (subject to the receiving club's applicable federation's transfer window), and subject to the consent of the player.
Upon loaning a player, clubs will receive roster relief but not Salary Budget relief unless otherwise agreed to in the loan agreement.
A club may not free up space in the Salary Budget with a buyout of a player's contract during the season. If a club buys out a player's contract during the season, the buyout amount will be charged against the club's Salary Budget.
Last edited by OgtheDim; 06-28-2021 at 09:05 PM.
Which is a good point. If there’s a way to get out from under the cap hit, you want to take it. So logically, that means 6-month loan THEN a buyout in the off-season.
But something tells me there is a rule change warranted. Saying you have to take a cap hit during the season for the buyout amount but not in the offseason makes no sense.
The logical rule here is to say if you buyout during the season you do not get the cap space back until the next year. And you still can only do so many buyouts. But not count the buyout amount against your cap, that’s asinine
Jozy didnt publicly demand to leave. the team, very publicly, has made it clear they wont play him. A true superstar and a cub legend - yes, with injury history, but legend nonetheless - and they chose a coach with one win over him at the first opportunity. Terrible management.
About now would be a good time for one of the journos to call in a favor. We need to know what the hell happened between the Altidore and team. Surprised it hasn't leaked already in some form.
If I had to wager on the outcome of this Jozy situation I would say it ends in a buyout. We lose the DP spot for the year and attempt to bring in a 9 in January.
Having him on the payroll and not playing also doesn't help the team. Unfortunately, this is a lose-lose situation. If the decision has been made that Jozy doesn't see the pitch in a TFC uniform again (big if), then I don't see why MLSE wouldn't at least try recoup some of their financial loss with a loan or other deal.
I'm going to guess one of those magic transactions appears. Something complicated where we offload Jozy and eat some money but rather than lose the DP spot we trade a valuable asset somewhere ... Marky, Osorio or Laryea for enough funny money to make the amount we need to eat on Jozy's contract disappear. The rule that allows it to happen will be passed off by MLS as some obscure loophole uncovered by Manning and Curtis in an attempt to make them seem clever because not only can we sign a new striker but we also get to solve a problem when everyone is fit and we don't have enough midfield/winger spots on the field for all of our MLS "stars".
Because they will sign Kei Kamara for less.
“What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.”
I bet you a beer if they take either it'll be Jozy. Kamara is the all-time MLS locker-room cancer. Even teams he scored at got rid of him tout suite.
If their choices are "injury prone but might score 10 goals, might be an pain in the ass, but might be inspriational" versus "cheap, but team cohesion and the manager's authority will be under assail" they'll take...
On the other hand it's Precourt. He might just go for cheap.
To be fair though, there is likely no one in this world willing to take on Altidore at his current wages, short of tfc making an arrangement where they still pay the majority of his wages.
AND more importantly, the $600,000+ in salary budget space he would take up on any team in MLS, taking into consideration his current productivity rate and injury issues.
Last edited by spe18; 06-29-2021 at 06:24 PM.