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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    I don’t really see this. Not to be too argumentative... but aside from Bradley and Ciman (in Montreal, who definitely matters for this question), who really lives here? The families could go with the players to a rented condo anywhere, and I suspect a number of them might be happier to be in warmer weather and in a place where vaccinations are actually happening.

    I guess this is all about how you see training in a bubble. They obviously make it work in places like Iceland and Russia. But it's a very specialized thing, it's a lot of 5v5, and, in those places, every team in the league is doing it.

    I predict it'll be a talking point soon enough..
    The bubble at Downsview is a whole pitch, so why would the drills/training be any different than on a pitch outslde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    I don’t really see this. Not to be too argumentative... but aside from Bradley and Ciman (in Montreal, who definitely matters for this question), who really lives here? The families could go with the players to a rented condo anywhere, and I suspect a number of them might be happier to be in warmer weather and in a place where vaccinations are actually happening.
    Mavinga flew back to Toronto with his wife and daughter. Marky flew back with his fiance. Oso's family is here. OG's family is here and based on Instagram his family stayed the winter. Morrow's wife works for a Toronto company. Richie is from the area. Akinola's family is likely here. Pozuelo's wife and kids stayed behind in Spain, although she's pregnant so may have preferred to have support from their broader family.

    This is just our starting lineup, ignoring a lot of the youth/academy players who I presume also have close family ties to the area.

    EDIT: The players aren't robots. I'm sure its nice to be in the comfort of their home (particularly for players who have been in Toronto for a number of seasons), be able to get food from their favourite restaurants, have all their belongings close by, and train in a familiar place. MLSE has invested a ton of money in the training ground that our facility is likely better than any other facility we would rent temporarily. There's a lot of things we can get mad about with how the team is run, but I think this decision to train in Toronto is more than justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Armas in his presser mentions



    Seriously worth a listen from about minute 14:30 until 18:00 if you want to understand how we are going to play this year.
    Yes. It was clear that he knows what he is going to do. Whether we can do it is separate; he is (correctly) trusting his own vision, not starting with "how do I play with this group."

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    OK I hear all of you. peace. It's not the biggest opinion on my part. I get the human side might be better for more players than I said.

    Re full size pitch, teams train on multiple pitches at once in outdoor settings.

    Let's table this for later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Yes. It was clear that he knows what he is going to do. Whether we can do it is separate; he is (correctly) trusting his own vision, not starting with "how do I play with this group."
    Counterpoint: if you’ve spent millions on a roster and one that has proven to be relatively competitive, does tailoring to Chris Armas’s vision make sense? He’s not exactly a name brand coach or someone we’re investing lots of money in.

    Rather than his own vision, maybe his job should be to get the most out of the group? Of course certain tweaks can be made over time as roster turnover occurs but otherwise... maybe he shouldn’t have the expectation of coming in with a grand vision and implementing it.

    I have nothing against this pressing style of play but I’m a little bit miffed the go-forward setup for this club is being benchmarked against the footballing equivalent of McDonalds. Not sure what makes Red Bull so special or why that’s the best fit for TFC as a club. Just seems to be what the management team knows, which is why it is so great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    OK I hear all of you. peace. It's not the biggest opinion on my part. I get the human side might be better for more players than I said.

    Re full size pitch, teams train on multiple pitches at once in outdoor settings.

    Let's table this for later.
    I think it's a solid argument either way sort of. The main thing the club should be securing for wherever we play out of this year is actual housing.

    I'm sure it would make a big difference to the players and mitigate the downside of not being at home if they rented them houses instead of hotels.

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    About those hamstring issues

    MIGHT be heading south to LAG - will have to watch


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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    OK I hear all of you. peace. It's not the biggest opinion on my part. I get the human side might be better for more players than I said.

    Re full size pitch, teams train on multiple pitches at once in outdoor settings.

    Let's table this for later.
    You know it's a boring off-season when all we can argue about is Ensco's thoughts on training!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canary10 View Post
    You know it's a boring off-season when all we can argue about is Ensco's thoughts on training!
    Haha. Seriously.
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    Jim Liston leaving is another big plus. Going to keep an eye on how the Gals do with muscle injuries now compared to us.
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    They seemed to have let all that department go


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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    They seemed to have let all that department go

    Best offseason news so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    They seemed to have let all that department go

    I hope Ali Curtis knows what he's doing... Was a house cleaning really necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC/Everton View Post
    I hope Ali Curtis knows what he's doing... Was a house cleaning really necessary?
    We won't know the details of how this went down but our tendency to have leg injuries was becoming an open joke in the league. Could have been practice sessions & training related or could have been sports science related. Both variables are gone/changed now so its either on the players or something from before is being maintained.

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    The approach to sports fitness and science can differ greatly from team to team based on their philosophy to it based on whom is overseeing it. Remember Paul Winsper from back in the day, a true fitness guru who left TFC for Nike, having also worked for Newcastle. There does have to be oversight on any endeavour a team takes on and its the GM and or President who is responsible for it if things go sideways. it also comes to simply recognizing the specific needs of the players you currently have.

    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    They seemed to have let all that department go


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red CB Toronto View Post
    There does have to be oversight on any endeavour a team takes on and its the GM and or President who is responsible for it if things go sideways. it also comes to simply recognizing the specific needs of the players you currently have.
    I don't think backroom staff should be responsible for this besides doing the hiring (if it's their call and not the manager's) and firing. If it goes sideways, like ours did, then it should 100% be on the manager as it's his job to monitor the players and how they're performing on a daily basis and what should be required. Next in line for blame should be the fitness department. They should really be working together very closely on a daily basis.
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    I don’t think this is entirely straightforward. Could be a number of other things (all speculation):

    1) signing injury prone players
    2) vanney’s penchant for playing a first choice lineup until someone falls over and dies, even when guys looked to be on-the-mend.
    3) ignoring the advice of our trainers.
    4) Fatigue from extra travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Counterpoint: if you’ve spent millions on a roster and one that has proven to be relatively competitive, does tailoring to Chris Armas’s vision make sense? He’s not exactly a name brand coach or someone we’re investing lots of money in.

    Rather than his own vision, maybe his job should be to get the most out of the group? Of course certain tweaks can be made over time as roster turnover occurs but otherwise... maybe he shouldn’t have the expectation of coming in with a grand vision and implementing it.

    I have nothing against this pressing style of play but I’m a little bit miffed the go-forward setup for this club is being benchmarked against the footballing equivalent of McDonalds. Not sure what makes Red Bull so special or why that’s the best fit for TFC as a club. Just seems to be what the management team knows, which is why it is so great.
    I actually agree with you - they should have found a coach to fit the roster. i just think that given they hired him he needs to be who he is, not try to be someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    I actually agree with you - they should have found a coach to fit the roster. i just think that given they hired him he needs to be who he is, not try to be someone else.
    Fair. Not to go back entirely on what I said but I think as long as he compromises in some areas he should be fine.

    We can’t be too idealistic until some of the roster changes. Not sure how you play a high line with Omar, for example.

    But we have a decent number of players to work with who could, in theory, play the press. That’s the good news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Fair. Not to go back entirely on what I said but I think as long as he compromises in some areas he should be fine.

    We can’t be too idealistic until some of the roster changes. Not sure how you play a high line with Omar, for example.

    But we have a decent number of players to work with who could, in theory, play the press. That’s the good news.
    Yes. A lot depends on The General too - will he be mobile again? We don't quite have the roster to play a press but it is possible to play it at moments and be effective. I got a good felling from the interview in the sense that Armas is genuine and motivated. Effective will be the next question...

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    By the way, I think it’s super interesting to see that Orlando didn’t have to make Pato a DP to get him. Jozy and Pato are almost exactly the same age and, in different ways, are kind of comparable. I thought Jozy himself might be going to Orlando

    In the market for older strikers with questions, the bottom has fallen out. This episode tells me that TFC would have had to eat $5M (mor?) of Jozy’s $6.3M salary to move him. Which makes no sense for TFC. So he isn’t going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    Yes. A lot depends on The General too - will he be mobile again? We don't quite have the roster to play a press but it is possible to play it at moments and be effective. I got a good felling from the interview in the sense that Armas is genuine and motivated. Effective will be the next question...
    It sounds like Armas intends to try to blend pressing with Vanney’s style of ball possession, but didn’t mention anything about playing out of the back. I’m not sure if that’s dreaming or realistic, but it sounds like the best of both styles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamp Berg View Post
    It sounds like Armas intends to try to blend pressing with Vanney’s style of ball possession, but didn’t mention anything about playing out of the back. I’m not sure if that’s dreaming or realistic, but it sounds like the best of both styles.

    Armas has used the word verticality a lot - even put in a "get it forward" throwing motion once in the presser when he used the word. A passing sequence of Omar to Mavinga to Bradley to Auro to Omar isn't going to be allowed, I suspect.

    Auro in particular is going to have to step up his game significantly because he is the king around these parts of "slow it down".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    By the way, I think it’s super interesting to see that Orlando didn’t have to make Pato a DP to get him. Jozy and Pato are almost exactly the same age and, in different ways, are kind of comparable. I thought Jozy himself might be going to Orlando

    In the market for older strikers with questions, the bottom has fallen out. This episode tells me that TFC would have had to eat $5M (mor?) of Jozy’s $6.3M salary to move him. Which makes no sense for TFC. So he isn’t going anywhere.
    Jozy's deal is apparently front loaded. Paul Tenorio mentioned it on a podcast around the time of transfer rumor in the US Camp. The 6.3M was 2019 salary and there was no salary release in 2020. Guess we will find out if he's still here when/if the salaries get released this season.

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    Can't remember if it was Wheeler or Jack or someone else but that has been confirmed on a recent pod that this year's salary is substantially less. The impression that I got was it was in the 4M range but I could be making that up.

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    At the risk of getting my hopes up too much, the good news is even under Vanney we've pressed at times, albeit selectively. I remember rewatching the 2016 playoff run a few years back and noticing how surprisingly effective we looked with Oso, Seba, and Jozy (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) finding a few short windows in each game to suddenly pressure the hell out of the other team's backline during buildup.

    Seriously, I'm not joking, there's film of Altidore pressing. And while I don't think 2021 Jozy can do that as a starter, maybe there's a chance he can as a sub?

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    Selon Radio-Canada, le #CFMTL a proposé au Toronto FC de disputer un match amical afin d'aider son “rival” a préparer la finale de la Coupe du Canada, qui devrait avoir lieu entre mi-mars et fin mars.

    Translation:

    According to Radio-Canada, the #CFMTL offered Toronto FC a friendly match to help its “rival” prepare for the Canada Cup final, which should take place between mid-March and the end of March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Areathrasher View Post
    OG is absolutely bang on with his posts.

    TFC have been the least active team in MLS this offseason. Even the other two sides (quakes and NYCFC) that were inactive have picked up the pace over the last week.

    You're telling me they couldn't have announced a Morrow extension, the new jersey or something small to keep people engaged?
    I agree. I'm completely uninterested and bored. No momentum no buzz. Hope it changes

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    im sure they will announce morrow and zava soon,jus 5 more interviews,curtis wants to make sure they are good character guys

 

 

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