Ben Olsen sure does suck.
Ben Olsen sure does suck.
If Olsen is chosen, its obvious they dont have clear ambitions in the future other than take our money, and provide a poor quality product
If Marc Dos Santos became available I would make him an offer. Has MLS experience both as head coach and assistant. Plus he is Canadian. I can't blame him for what goes on in Vancouver as they don't have the players there. Pep Guardiola couldn't win with that squad.
Olsen has a pretty mixed record. Seemed like DC was great one year and terrible the next all the way through his time there. But if people are reacting against the fact he isn't some big name European coach, let's not do that. We don't necessarily need that, in fact those coaches generally seem to do worse. Vanney certainly wasn't and he turned out pretty well.
Olsen has a 36% winning percentage over a 10 year coaching career. It isn't that he is an MLS retread, it is that he is an awful MLS retread.
Wonder if Jurgen Klinsmann's name surfaces in the conversation?
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Ben Olsen would be a massive disappointment and cement my lack of faith in Manning/Curtis.
You're missing the point. The point is to manage the USMNT, his home country's national team, to some success in the WC. If he managed to get them to the final 4 in 2026 then he'd be a God in US Soccer. That's more important for his image than managing a scrub team in a top 5 league because that's all he would get offered, if that even. However, Vanney isn't about his image. Vanney is about being part of a successful program. He wants the USMNT to do great things and I am sure if he had the choice, he'd like it to be under his watch rather than somebody elses.
To put it in our terms; imagine there was a Canadian MLS coach who was doing what Vanney has managed to do in his 6 years for some US based team. Now imagine that guy wanted to come to Toronto or one of the shittier Canadian MLS teams for more exposure to the CSA, who are probably too cheap to buy DAZN to watch US based matches. Now if that guy got the CMNT to the WC and if once there, somehow got us out of the group, he'd be a legend forever and would no doubt be very proud of that when looking back on his career.
*Also, it's correct that he would only work with a national team for a week or so every couple months but that also means he would have more family time and in case of a year like this one, not have to live in a hotel away from them for most of it.
Last edited by Ultra & Proud; 12-02-2020 at 01:35 PM.
Also Olsen is trash. I spent the last 3 years laughing at DCU for keeping him around. I would prefer to not have to self immolate over us being idiotic and hiring this clown.
Domenec Torrent would be high on my list
I am sure if Ben Olsen's name is being thrown around Jason Kries's name will be too due to his ties to Bill at RSL.
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Yo Manning, just dump Curtis so you can be free to hire Mike Petke.
Just to be clear, I wasn't advocating for Olsen.
I think him, Petke, Kreis are all kinda in the same boat. Don't want any of them.
If Greg does have his eye on the USMNT at some point down the road, it is going to an attractive job once again.What a moment for the USMNT today. Christian Pulisic (Chelsea), Sergino Dest (Barcelona), Gio Reyna (Borussia Dortmund) and Weston McKennie (Juventus) are all starting in Champions League games. All under 23 years old. The sky is bright moving forward. Hosting the 2026 will make it even more attractive.
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I think this perceived as a big job for Americans... we shouldn’t put it on a pedestal though. Jesse Marsch coaching in Europe deserves more cred. Par for the course they’d rather knaw off their own arm than hand over a coaching gig to an American.
Overall,I appreciate this is a decent crop of players for the US but I feel expectations are outsized and they are bound to be disappointed. A handful of players in CL will not make you competitive with Germany et al. If they are looking for a gutsy (but not World Cup winning performance) that may be in the cards.
Last edited by ag futbol; 12-02-2020 at 04:02 PM.
Best of luck to Greg, not sure how this website never popped up before LOL
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Last edited by Red CB Toronto; 12-02-2020 at 05:38 PM.
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Possibilities:
We get Robin Fraser back somehow.
We promote Jason Bent.
We try for someone huge like Pochettino.
We do NOT hire Ben Olsen.
Maybe ...
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An absolute disaster everywhere he coached. Got sacked after less than a full season at Bayern. The U.S. regressed during his tenure. And don't forget TFC hired him as a consultant and he recommended they hire Winter. He is generally regarded as a clown in Germany. Would sooner get Olsen.
Olsen getting a second chance is a particular dream of certain journos in the States.
The only box he ticks is he fits into the culture of the club vis-a-vis giving a shit about each other.
His preferred playing style does not.
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How's Patrick Vierra doing?