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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    But just because Vanney did well, doesn't mean another relative noob would also do well. It's at least as much a risk as any of the other risks discussed here. So much depends on character and other intangibles in that situation. I don't know if Curtis and Manning have the skills and insight to make a good choice in that environment.
    The drawback of hiring a big name coach is it comes with a big price tag and big ego. A name European coach is less likely to be willing to listen to and work well with Curtis and Manning which could cause friction in the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NK Toronto View Post
    The drawback of hiring a big name coach is it comes with a big price tag and big ego. A name European coach is less likely to be willing to listen to and work well with Curtis and Manning which could cause friction in the club.
    I wouldn't go for big-name international coach either. There have been plenty of flame-outs in MLS. Good chance they don't like it here: the salary cap & other rules, crazy travel, plastic turf, weather at both extremes, MLS refs, journalists in locker rooms, backwater location in terms of international footy, etc. But I think there are "experienced" coaches between noob and big-name. As I mentioned above, preferably experience in a salary-constrained environment and less-than-ideal conditions.

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    Frankly I think an experienced Liga MX coach would be ideal assuming that we ultimately want to win the CCL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    If we can lure a decent pedigree manager from Europe then I'd pair them up with Bobby Smyrniotis as his assistant. For me ..wasn't impressed with Vierra at NYCFC nor the way he left before accomplishing anything. I'd pass. It would be like grabbing Thierry Henry from Montreal...not proven at all yet.

    Bradley ...I'd give some serious consideration to taking the gamble and giving him the reigns. He knows MLS...he has an international mind-set in DNA. You know he is going to follow in his dads management footsteps. He has also been one of the foundational pieces that rescued this team from the hell we were in.

    The only MLS coach that I'd consider is Robin Fraser...he was a big part of our success & I think he will go on to success one way or another. He'd fit back in like a glove here.

    If there were a suitable Liga MX candidate I'd look there ...doesn't seem to be.
    Absolutely completely totally agree with your views

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton_Red View Post
    If there were a suitable Liga MX candidate I'd look there ...doesn't seem to be.
    This doesn't entice you?


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    Michael Bradley over Danny Dichio for head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealG-TFC View Post
    This doesn't entice you?

    How can you link to Miguel Herrera without using the better version:

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    That would be fun....get him signed Ali!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    I wouldn't go for big-name international coach either. There have been plenty of flame-outs in MLS. Good chance they don't like it here: the salary cap & other rules, crazy travel, plastic turf, weather at both extremes, MLS refs, journalists in locker rooms, backwater location in terms of international footy, etc. But I think there are "experienced" coaches between noob and big-name. As I mentioned above, preferably experience in a salary-constrained environment and less-than-ideal conditions.
    John Carver, after bouncing around, is now an assistant with Scotland. He might have been interesting with Mo's disfunctional regime gone, but then again he'd still need to deal with MLS refs.

    (I'm only joking, we could do much better than John Carver).

    Now more seriously, a lot of European managers can't stand the poor quality of MLS (and all of CONCACAF) officiating, along with all those other things that you mentioned. It's an important factor to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealG-TFC View Post
    This doesn't entice you?


    No

    18 months and he's gone - no thanks.

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    John Carver was a really beauty, whom here who was around back in the day will never forget him showing up at our tailgate after he had re-signed from the Reds. I also had the pleasure of randomly enjoying a few pints at the pub with him here in Toronto many years later and he was quite candid about his departure, outside of Greg's success he is my all-time favourite manager for TFC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    John Carver, after bouncing around, is now an assistant with Scotland. He might have been interesting with Mo's disfunctional regime gone, but then again he'd still need to deal with MLS refs.

    (I'm only joking, we could do much better than John Carver).

    Now more seriously, a lot of European managers can't stand the poor quality of MLS (and all of CONCACAF) officiating, along with all those other things that you mentioned. It's an important factor to consider.

    Remember The Man, The Legend, The Goal 5-12-07 and All That #9 Left On The Pitch, Thanks For The Memories !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFC1986 View Post
    Michael Bradley over Danny Dichio for head coach.
    Though I'd still prefer someone with experience over either.

    But preferably not someone who has bounced around 10 times in 10 years, or whatever.

    None of the names I've seen being thrown around so far inspire me with much confidence.
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    Please park a truck full of cash to Schmeltzer's house. I hear he has not re-signed yet for Sounders
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan View Post
    Please park a truck full of cash to Schmeltzer's house. I hear he has not re-signed yet for Sounders
    Get Lagerwey as well while we’re at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    Though I'd still prefer someone with my experience over either.

    But preferably not someone who has bounced around 10 times in 10 years, or whatever.

    None of the names I've seen being thrown around so far inspire me with much confidence.
    It's all just gossip. I'm not taking anything I've heard with any level of seriousness at this point in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard View Post
    It's all just gossip. I'm not taking anything I've heard with any level of seriousness at this point in time.
    True.

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    Laurent Blanc and Vieira are getting interviews.

    https://twitter.com/frankdellapa/sta...521068548?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Laurent Blanc and Vieira are getting interviews.

    https://twitter.com/frankdellapa/sta...521068548?s=20
    I back both of these

    Laurent Blanc would have me over the moon
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    Rumours floating around Twitter something is going to be announced imminently.

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    Now we're talking...the Athletic article had me worried but it's reassuring to know that was nothing more than Kloke playing connect the dots in a sandbox.

    Blanc would put us on the map.

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    Blanc would be great. Fantastic signal about our future intentions.

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    Blanc was on 5.6 million USD when he left PSG. Wonder if we can afford him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Blanc was on 5.6 million USD when he left PSG. Wonder if we can afford him.
    Apparently the league was making an extra $1Bn in revenue prior to the Covid era so there's lots of money everywhere.


    But seriously, it's MLSE. They can afford anything if they want to and for them, that's not much. Remember they are very diversified and have a lot of revenue streams beside attended sporting events.

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    Would Laurent Blanc be the biggest coaching hire in MLS history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Would Laurent Blanc be the biggest coaching hire in MLS history?
    Him and Tata Martino I guess.

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    I'm leery about Blanc as doesn't look like he's coached in a while. I wonder if he is current with the latest tactical trends in the game. Or does time off matter as much with coaches as it does with players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Initial B View Post
    I'm leery about Blanc as doesn't look like he's coached in a while. I wonder if he is current with the latest tactical trends in the game. Or does time off matter as much with coaches as it does with players?
    It's only been a couple of years – I don't think that's going to matter much.

    I wasn't that familiar with him so I've been checking out his CV. I'm highly impressed. Landing him really would be pretty impressive.

    But it is a bit curious – why have so much time off, and then be interested in coming to MLS? I'm interested to hear the explanation.

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    This is curious - second hand opinion from France indicates Blanc turned down the job at Nantes https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...ts-nantes-job/

    he doesn’t like the idea of taking over a team in the middle of the season without full control over the recruitment policy and preparing the team.

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    I will be happy to eat these electrons ... but seriously, Laurent Blanc is not coming to TFC.

    It is ticket selling season, amigos.

    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    Would Laurent Blanc be the biggest coaching hire in MLS history?

    I wouldn't get your hopes up for any of this.

    Just because he's successful in Europe, doesn't mean he could come here and replicate any form of that success. The budgets and player depth are far inferior to what he's worked with in the past. Not every manager can deal with that. He could be the biggest coaching flop in MLS history as well.

    The Patrick Viera thing interests me more. He did well at NYCFC. He knows the limitations of the league.
    I just don't know how much of the squad and style of play he would want to change. That would be my only concern.

 

 

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