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    Quote Originally Posted by GerMc View Post
    Gonzalez was responsible for both of the goals. That was a terrible header.
    Plus Q called for it and Omar jumped in front of him.

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    Why was Poz taken out?

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    So who is our defensive coach again? Cause that was all about nobody calling for it and 3 guys going for it & Gonzalez not doing safety first.

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    100% deserved goal by DC.
    This is all on Vanney... How the hell you want to just defend for the last 30 minutes?

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    Vanney needs to go it’s time , how many times does this team give up leads at the end of games disgraceful!!

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    Pozuelo off!?!! Is Vanney insane

    I don’t understand this at all. We come out flat as all hell. Great adjustments in the second half. Ten minutes left decide to fuck with a good thing and bunker. Go down a goal. Pozuelo off.

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    It's an empty stadium, how the hell does Omar not hear Westberg call for it

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    I'm fed up with Vanneys "oh we have a 1 goal lead, let's completely switch our dominating strategy". How many times have we blown a late lead now because of this. Vanney needs to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccMan2 View Post
    Vanney needs to go it’s time , how many times does this team give up leads at the end of games disgraceful!!
    it comes down to reinforcements, we are currently not playing the best 11 consistently due to injury bugs, and we are not looking at improving the club even through trades and using the acquistions, i think its time Ali puts his image on TFC instead of just letting the previous regime leftovers exist, i dont fully blame it on coach however feel its a top to bottom approach which needs to improve to go up to a SS contender

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    When the young energy you bring on is Endoh...you know you have something wrong in your development program.


    Seriously, DCU at the end there had 3 teenagers playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gracos View Post
    it comes down to reinforcements, we are currently not playing the best 11 consistently due to injury bugs, and we are not looking at improving the club even through trades and using the acquistions, i think its time Ali puts his image on TFC instead of just letting the previous regime leftovers exist, i dont fully blame it on coach however feel its a top to bottom approach which needs to improve to go up to a SS contender
    This has been the excuse since fucking 2018

    that being said I’ve been kind of happy with Vanney as of late

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    Really disappointing.

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    Just remember that DC really sucks this season, 2nd worst in the conference, & 2nd worst in the whole league based on PPG. (At least that was the case before this game ended.)
    Last edited by Auzzy; 09-19-2020 at 08:54 PM.

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    next 2 games are going to clearly show who we are against NYCFC and CLB its not going to be pretty

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    There were no dc players around Omar on that cross. They gave those points away.

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    Trade Altidore maybe he will care more somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    Just remember that DC really sucks this season, 2nd worst in the conference, & 2nd worst in the whole league based on PPG.
    Our defence isn't good enough.

    But that was a game where the midfield did the back line no favours in the last 10 minutes.

    Really missed Bradley's calm nature out there tonight.

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    Get rid of guys like Mullins,Ciman, Endoh and let the young Canadians take their place , unless a foreign player is so much better than a Canadian then the Canadian should be chosen. What’s the purpose of keeping a Ciman, or a Mullens ? You got Canadian kids not even dressing I don’t get this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Our defence isn't good enough.

    But that was a game where the midfield did the back line no favours in the last 10 minutes.

    Really missed Bradley's calm nature out there tonight.
    The crazy thing is their spending crazy money on all defensive players except the best one Laryea. So many defenders not earning their contracts like Zavaleta and Ciman. And in this game Morrow and Gonzalez

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBobSaget View Post
    The crazy thing is their spending crazy money on all defensive players except the best one Laryea. So many defenders not earning their contracts like Zavaleta and Ciman. And in this game Morrow and Gonzalez
    This team is as good as any in MLS, less a proven goal scoring threat. They have never replaced Giovinco.

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    The signs were there in Orlando that not all was well. We beat Vancouver 3-0 but then in the next 5 games our goal difference was +1. And now another late game collapse.

    I think it's time to acknowledge that we are a mediocre, mid table club at best. We need to rebuild in the off-season and it may be time for a coaching change

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Chevy396 View Post
    This team is as good as any in MLS, less a proven goal scoring threat. They have never replaced Giovinco.
    The big problem of this team is it's defense, not the offense.
    It has been it's problem almost all their existence, except maybe 2-3 years.

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    the 3 million dollar CBs and only mavinga is starter material.how many blown games the last 2 years,and jozy has to go.

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    If I was to blame somebody for this

    I'd say:

    a) every TFC academy director prior to 2014 for a complete waste of time & money developing anybody (but especially defenders) - the fact that the only home grown out there with TFC is Osorio most nights (and Akinola now) and that there is nobody else really in the whole of the dang world at this level or above who started in TFC's academy, came through and moved on somewhere of the same level ...that is shocking, unheard of in MLS & embarrassing
    Our academy has to have one of the worst records in all of MLS.

    &

    b) Ali Curtis for not getting the recruitment right

    • no speed on the wings but for Laryea & the new guy & a bust in Gallardo
    • no decent 3rd CB, either experienced or a prospect, causing us to rely upon an aging Ciman & Gonzalez as Mavinga deals with injuries
    • only 1 left footed CB in the squad most nights
    • not getting that young wide attacker DP they were looking for back in January - Piatti has been great and all but remember - he was not the first choice - he's a wide older crafty guy who prefers to tuck in and this has unbalanced the passing of this team to the point where there is no speed of ball movement to open up pockets - its all tap tap to the close people and its wasting Altidore's use of space (which is how big men play) & sucking in everything down the middle


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    c) Vanney for
    • not replacing Fraser with somebody as good - I"m not sure who the defensive guru is but its not good enough
    • not replacing our GK coach



    This all can be fixed and we will still win more then we will lose but this talk of being an elite MLS team is smoke & mirrors if you don't get academy products through & don't get the recruitment needed to use the players you have properly
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    All in all, we can be happy we got 1 point in this one.
    At the start of the game could have been 2-0 for DC, and in the last minute they could have scored again.

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    And, I'd still rather be us then DCU with Ben Olsen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portu View Post
    Pozuelo off!?!! Is Vanney insane

    I don’t understand this at all. We come out flat as all hell. Great adjustments in the second half. Ten minutes left decide to fuck with a good thing and bunker. Go down a goal. Pozuelo off.
    We park the bus and try to run the game out too often. Should go for the kill more often and set ourselves up to attack.

    I want to see how we play next two games. We did fumble into a point here as much as it feels like a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    The big problem of this team is it's defense, not the offense.
    It has been it's problem almost all their existence, except maybe 2-3 years.
    It’s a problem for most teams in the League, and TFC is tied for 7th in the league for goals against. However, I can’t remember the last time we scored a goal on a set piece, or a free kick. Against shit teams like DC they should have scored 4 with all the chances they produced. A Giovinco would make all the difference, scoring, opening space for Altidore, reducing the pressure on a tired defence. Creating opportunities out of nothing. Generating free kicks.
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    I believe our biggest problem is how we have used our DP slots. A DP needs to be an elite player and a game changer. Only Poz meets that criteria. Piatti is a nice player but he is TAM, not DP. Altidore is a liability. In hindsight his current contract is the worst in TFC history. If instead we had a top notch striker and winger as DP's then we could probably get by with our current defenders. Our defense in 2017 was not that spectacular. As it stands now we can neither score nor defend.

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    FWIW Vanney after the game on Jozy

    Sounds like Vanney was pretty disgusted with the first half performance


 

 

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