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    The Ciman-Zavaleta pairing is a nightmare, I don't know why we'd ever go back to it, we've seen this enough times to know. Even 2-0 up against 10 men isn't enough for them... like just admit these players need a proper CB beside them to not be a disaster. They should never ever play together.

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    Anyone know how we develop center backs down at the academy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerMc View Post
    And I thought we all agreed last season that Zavaleta and Ciman should not be allowed on the field at the same time. Maybe take one of Gonzalez or Mavinga off, but not both.
    And if you're not sure if both your CBs can go 90 minutes in the first game back, in the heat: then start with one of them. E.g. start with Gonzalez & Ciman and sub Mavinga on as needed.

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    so dissapointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfcfans View Post
    Any more compliments for the D pairing? Just Win the game please - don’t need another SJ special....
    I guess I called it - the SJ special....

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    Shades of Frei & Altidore that Hamid save

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    That feels like a loss. Such a disappointing feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noimpactinmtl View Post
    Anyone know how we develop center backs down at the academy?
    Given our history of blowing leads after 75 minutes since 2007, probably 75 minute games

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    All this jabbering & handbags after the game, the best you'll get this from that is the 'Rona.

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    I went from thinking this was going to be a Columbus-Cincinatti game to it being a 2007-2015 TFC
    Last edited by rydermike; 07-13-2020 at 10:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Shades of Frei & Altidore that Hamid save
    I think today's was off the bar even w/o the keeper interfering.

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    Ciman-Zavaleta ..... how many fucking times do we need to watch this collective implosion

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    I'm so fucking angry at this fucking 'see the game out' bullshit. How many points do we lose every season because of that? So far this year it's been 4. In 3 fucking games! We should be 3-0, instead we're 1-0-2.

    Bullshit.

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    What a waste.

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    That should not have happened. Two Tobias Time goals? I think this is on Vanney, subbing both CBs out. Should have picked just one. I would have kept on Mavinga and brought Ciman on. The Ciman-Zavaleta pairing is simply not good enough. I guess it's good for the Montreal game, because I'm sure the players are absolutely pissed that they gave this game away.

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    well, if this isn't the wake up call this team needs
    “Years have gone by and I’ve finally learned to accept myself for who I am: a beggar for good football.

    I go about the world, hand outstretched, and in the stadiums I plead: ‘A pretty move, for the love of God.’

    And when good football happens, I give thanks for the miracle and I don’t give a damn which team or country performs it.”

    -Eduardo Galeano

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    Can you play a man down voluntarily? Maybe as soon as the other team gets a red card, Vanney should pull a TFC player off the pitch as well. Either that or come up with some decent tactics when playing a man advantage.

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    Risking players health needs to result in wins

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    Zavaleta tried to draw a free kick on the second goal. You're a centre back, you need to be strong in your own box and get the ball out no matter how, not trying to be cute and draw a free kick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaEatingYeti View Post
    WTF?
    Why Zavaleta?

    Anyone, but not Zavaleta!!!!!
    I seriously doubt the Ciman-Zavaleta pairing would be good enough in the CPL.
    I'm not joking at all.

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    I swear we need two coaches. The second coach being solely responsible for substitutions. Vanney a good coach but his sub decisions cost us multiple times.

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    Wow not surprising though, you never take off both your starting two starting Center Backs never! I don’t care how many men you are up! Zavaletta we love to criticize but come on Ciman at fault for both goals I’m sorry!

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    This beyond utter shit second half performance is 100% because of Vanney's idiotic subs.

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    in my experience, 2-0 is the most dangerous score

    it is either 1 or 3

    2-0 and a man up calls for big trouble

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    And Mr. Caldwell telling all of us basically that this game was over at the start of the second half , well done there Caldwell!

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    This one is on Vanney. He was overconfident in switching out both central defenders when he did. Instead of putting them away in the second half we let them up off the mat.

    Hopefully it's a lesson learned.

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    We should be 3-0-0 this "season". Instead we're 1-0-2.

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    If it's going to take Vanney getting has ass canned to get rid of Erik fucking Zavaletta, lets do it. Cimian-Zav is never a good idea.

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    Talk that Mavinga asked to come off at the same time. May not have been planned.

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    I saw him give a sub motion earlier in the half and thought he might have been telling the team to keep up the tempo, but perhaps he was feeling something?

 

 

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