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    This is a spec thread and normally I wouldn't discuss the reality we all have in our heads - but given VV's age, I'm going to throw this out there

    The reason I don't think this gets done in 2020 is I don't think we play again in 2020 and TFC isn't willing to make such a commitment to an older player given the uncertainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    This is a spec thread and normally I wouldn't discuss the reality we all have in our heads - but given VV's age, I'm going to throw this out there

    The reason I don't think this gets done in 2020 is I don't think we play again in 2020 and TFC isn't willing to make such a commitment to an older player given the uncertainty.
    Without understanding what happens to every MLS contract, it's impossible to know what to think. It will all have to be negotiated with the union.

    Are guys getting only a percentage of their contracts? How does allocation work without results? Did the year count or didn't it? Is Delgado an FA or isn't he?
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    Curtis doesn't immediately rule out bringing back VV.

    https://torontosun.com/sports/soccer...mpression=true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Curtis doesn't immediately rule out bringing back VV.

    https://torontosun.com/sports/soccer...mpression=true
    I'm just listening to the Footy Talks now. He really, really, really wants to come back. Let's do it! He even said he doesn't care about money; we could probably sign him for like 300k. Even if he doesn't play too much, having him in the changing room would be worth it alone, like Cheyrou, as others have said.

    Re-signing Giovinco would probably be too hard at this point, but if we can get VV back we shouldn't even hesitate.

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    He is actually the best player we have ever had. Absolutely bring him back. Whatever the role.

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    And TFC’s latest video was the Columbus game in 2017 where he scored two; piece is full of tributes to him from Bono, Marky and Oso
    Last edited by MightyDM; 04-25-2020 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyDM View Post
    He is actually the best player we have ever had. Absolutely bring him back. Whatever the role.
    This, right here!
    I think Victor is the most under-appreciated player in TFC-s history.

    IMO without him that great 2017 would not exist, simply as that...

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    Pretty wild that Alex Bono and Quentin Westberg have the same birthday (today).

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    I agree that Victor is the most under-appreciated player in TFC history.
    But he's 33 and Poz plays the same position (when Vanney lets him) and will be (very) rested.
    Poz was a direct replacement for VV, not Gio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil'John View Post
    I agree that Victor is the most under-appreciated player in TFC history.
    But he's 33 and Poz plays the same position (when Vanney lets him) and will be (very) rested.
    Poz was a direct replacement for VV, not Gio.
    But Poz keeps saying he wants to be a number 10, so you do this:

    ---------Q-----------
    Auro----Omar-------Mavinga
    Oso-Marky-Bradley-Morrow
    -----------VV-----------
    ------Josy---Poz-------

    I salivate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    But Poz keeps saying he wants to be a number 10, so you do this:

    ---------Q-----------
    Auro----Omar-------Mavinga
    Oso-Marky-Bradley-Morrow
    -----------VV-----------
    ------Josy---Poz-------

    I salivate.
    Oh man that line up is nice. Myonly question is are you lining up a 3-4-1-2 or was that meant to be a 4-3-1-2? I would even be tempted to drop Marky and slot in DeLeon or Piatti (depending on how he plays of course)

    Either way that is a very scary line up especially considering you have pace with Achara and Laryea off the bench in the last 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside16 View Post
    Oh man that line up is nice. Myonly question is are you lining up a 3-4-1-2 or was that meant to be a 4-3-1-2? I would even be tempted to drop Marky and slot in DeLeon or Piatti (depending on how he plays of course)

    Either way that is a very scary line up especially considering you have pace with Achara and Laryea off the bench in the last 30
    3-4-1-2

    I forgot about Piatti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    But Poz keeps saying he wants to be a number 10, so you do this:

    ---------Q-----------
    Auro----Omar-------Mavinga
    Oso-Marky-Bradley-Morrow
    -----------VV-----------
    ------Josy---Poz-------

    I salivate.
    The number 10 is attacking midfielder, not forward like you have Poz in that lineup. In the formation you posted is VV is the number 10, not Pozuelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    The number 10 is attacking midfielder, not forward like you have Poz in that lineup. In the formation you posted is VV is the number 10, not Pozuelo.
    I think most people associate the number 10 in football with a striker, no?

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    The 10 is an AM. Pozo is an AM. He has to be on the ball.

    The striker/AM thing can be confusing, depending on the system. In our 3-5-2 in 2017, Gio was a hybrid, he roamed a lot.
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    Gio wanted to be a 10 - but he wasn't.

    When you think #10 - Think Zidane. They play in front of the midfield and behind the forwards - right in the middle.

    Usually operating between center and the top of the box. They will often come into the 18 as a free player, hence why they often score a lot and people confuse them for strikers.

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    Just to make it all more interesting


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    Marky deserves that extension. You just know that he is one of the first names on Vanney's team sheet.

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    This also probably means Fraser is heading out on loan or is gonna be traded away for some sweet, sweet TAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeForbes View Post
    This also probably means Fraser is heading out on loan or is gonna be traded away for some sweet, sweet TAM.
    They play different roles, I don't see the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James17930 View Post
    But Poz keeps saying he wants to be a number 10, so you do this:

    ---------Q-----------
    Auro----Omar-------Mavinga
    Oso-Marky-Bradley-Morrow
    -----------VV-----------
    ------Josy---Poz-------

    I salivate.
    Like others have said 10 is the VV role you have. Granted with VV's age, I see him more a 2nd half sub more than a 90 minute player. So an alternative I could find to accomodate both is you play Pozo as the AM, but maybe around minute 60-75 you make a sub, put in VV as the AM and Pozo moves up front as Jozy's partner.

    I would shift Morrow to a back 4. Auro and Morrow both like to push up, so this could be a hybrid 3-4-1-2 with it switching sides as needed from (Auro-Marky-Bradley-Osorio) to (Marky-Bradley-Osorio-Morrow) I moved Oso over a couple slots to keep Bradley in the middle.

    Key question like others mentioned is what to do with Piatti.

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    MLS starting calibre midfielders we have:

    Poz
    Bradley
    Oso
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    Marky
    DeLeon

    not much room for Fraser

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    Fraser's time to shine would have been now while Bradley is out injured. But obviously that's on hold.

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    Any decision made now is about 2021 & beyond. Fraser is the #6 potential as is Delgado. Have them both and see what happens when all this finishes.

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    Controversial opinion - The team operated much better in midfield (small sample size, I know) without them constantly forcing the ball to Bradley. Osorio and Delgado have tremendous chemistry.

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    Also, so glad to have something to discuss on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defoe View Post
    The number 10 is attacking midfielder, not forward like you have Poz in that lineup. In the formation you posted is VV is the number 10, not Pozuelo.
    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Just to make it all more interesting

    I've become pro-Marky now after how he performed in the first two games. Glad we're keeping him.

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    Signing him doesn’t 100% mean he is staying. He remains a trade asset, a transfer asset. Just something to remember.
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