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    Quote Originally Posted by magmadragon View Post
    TFC is more to blame for choosing to play during an international window. The CSA is usually incompetent but this one's not on them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    It's the MLS FO that schedules the games, not TFC. Each team can request a certain number of changes to the draft schedule but MLS makes the final decision. So it's on MLS, as is the policy of playing during many international dates in the first place.
    Don't forget MLS FO also back-loaded the TFC schedule anticipating a deep run in the CCL again too.

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    But did they actually? We fielded a second team in the tournament and showed very little ambition. Why would the club ask for a schedule slanted towards CCL when they aren’t even taking it seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    But did they actually? We fielded a second team in the tournament and showed very little ambition. Why would the club ask for a schedule slanted towards CCL when they aren’t even taking it seriously?

    Apart from Dorsey, that lineup in Panama was not a second team (for the team we had at the time)

    25 Alex Bono
    96 Auro Junior
    26 Laurent Ciman
    23 Chrys Mavinga
    5 Ashtone Morgan
    2 Justin Morrow
    8 Marco Delgado
    4 Michael Bradley C
    21 Jonathan Osorio
    19 Griffin Dorsey
    91 Terrence Boyd

    That's our starting defence, midfield baring Dorsey (without Poz remember) & striker at the time.

    The formation though was overly ambitious.

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    I've always understood it to be that teams have the option to not play during international windows when the schedule is being drawn up. They simply end up playing more midweek games. But since the gates are generally weaker during the week, lots of teams forgo doing so and rather play the weekend during an international window. We had a couple seasons like that in that past where we specifically avoided those weekends because we knew Bradley, Altidore etc would be called up.

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    Heck this league is so opaque, us playing Cinci this weekend could have been part of the price for Haglund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magmadragon View Post
    I've always understood it to be that teams have the option to not play during international windows when the schedule is being drawn up. They simply end up playing more midweek games. But since the gates are generally weaker during the week, lots of teams forgo doing so and rather play the weekend during an international window. We had a couple seasons like that in that past where we specifically avoided those weekends because we knew Bradley, Altidore etc would be called up.
    It's not unlimited. They can request a certain number of games to be rescheduled. Plus both teams have to agree and the MLS FO ultimately calls the shots.

    TFC has had their schedule requests turned down before. They wanted to reschedule a league game in 2018 during their CCL run and the other team declined. More notoriously, the league turned down a reschedule in 2007 when both teams agreed but the MLS FO didn't, and TFC (this was before they had an academy) had to play one of their coaches and an amateur player to fill out the squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    It's not unlimited. They can request a certain number of games to be rescheduled. Plus both teams have to agree and the MLS FO ultimately calls the shots.

    TFC has had their schedule requests turned down before. They wanted to reschedule a league game in 2018 during their CCL run and the other team declined. More notoriously, the league turned down a reschedule in 2007 when both teams agreed but the MLS FO didn't, and TFC (this was before they had an academy) had to play one of their coaches and an amateur player to fill out the squad.
    The 2018 one was after the schedule came out (fuck you Houston). I meant moreso during the original drafting of the schedule. Some obviously are avoiding these breaks since it's not a full slate of games this weekend. But I take your points.

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    Jozy on the flight to Cinci


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    Yeah pre-season reschedule requests are different from in-season reschedule requests.

    Oldtimer, when you say the league decides, when does the opinion of the broadcaster come into play? I'm sure that TSN has significant sway (anyway since they're owned by TFC's part owner). Different broadcasters for different teams, might be more or less flexible.

    CCL / Gold Cup / VC surely played a role for TFC's scheduling; as did TSN. Add the Argos schedule: i.e. TFC can't play on the same day or shortly before the Argos, to leave time for the switchover. Plus they want the grass longer for the Argos. And TFC can't play until a week after the Argos, to leave time for pitch recovery / cutting grass & repainting / switchover. (Not sure if the latter break can be shortened since the hybrid pitch was installed?)

    All that adds lots of inflexibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Apart from Dorsey, that lineup in Panama was not a second team (for the team we had at the time)

    25 Alex Bono
    96 Auro Junior
    26 Laurent Ciman
    23 Chrys Mavinga
    5 Ashtone Morgan
    2 Justin Morrow
    8 Marco Delgado
    4 Michael Bradley C
    21 Jonathan Osorio
    19 Griffin Dorsey
    91 Terrence Boyd

    That's our starting defence, midfield baring Dorsey (without Poz remember) & striker at the time.

    The formation though was overly ambitious.
    Yeah, that’s not a winning side (as we painfully found out). Maybe we took the opposition lightly or over estimated our own players, but there was nothing in particular about our preparedness at the start of the season or our urgency in getting signings ready for this game that suggested to me we were all that serious about that matchup.

    I don’t think a front four of Boyd, Dorsey, Osorio, and Morrow terrifies anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ag futbol View Post
    Yeah, that’s not a winning side (as we painfully found out). Maybe we took the opposition lightly or over estimated our own players, but there was nothing in particular about our preparedness at the start of the season or our urgency in getting signings ready for this game that suggested to me we were all that serious about that matchup.

    I don’t think a front four of Boyd, Dorsey, Osorio, and Morrow terrifies anyone.
    I think there was underestimation (not unusual for CCL the first few weeks) but that's not the same as not taking it seriously.

    *******

    Regardless, we seem to be taking it seriously now.

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    Some good Nick Hagglund content here. Always a class act.

    https://twitter.com/torontofc/status...739897857?s=21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auzzy View Post
    Yeah pre-season reschedule requests are different from in-season reschedule requests.

    Oldtimer, when you say the league decides, when does the opinion of the broadcaster come into play? I'm sure that TSN has significant sway (anyway since they're owned by TFC's part owner). Different broadcasters for different teams, might be more or less flexible.

    CCL / Gold Cup / VC surely played a role for TFC's scheduling; as did TSN. Add the Argos schedule: i.e. TFC can't play on the same day or shortly before the Argos, to leave time for the switchover. Plus they want the grass longer for the Argos. And TFC can't play until a week after the Argos, to leave time for pitch recovery / cutting grass & repainting / switchover. (Not sure if the latter break can be shortened since the hybrid pitch was installed?)

    All that adds lots of inflexibility.
    I understand from putting together interviews over the years that the schedule gets initially set by the league, taking into account shared stadium usage, broadcaster needs, holidays, and they honour some FIFA dates. Then the initial schedule gets sent to the teams. They then are allowed to request a certain number of changes (nobody has publicly said how many). The league then works these out between the teams, taking into account again broadcasters, shared stadiums, etc. I'm not sure if at that point the other team needs to agree, or only if it's a request for a change AFTER the schedule has been finalized, but whether or not, the whole thing is an extremely complicated exercise when you count in everything.

    TFC has tended to use their exemptions for USMNT games that aren't friendlies, because of who plays for TFC.
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    Good lineup tonight outside of mullens starting.

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    Jozy on the bench - Ciman starting - weird that Mavinga isn't mentionned as he was in the pregame video.

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    Actually Akinola is in that video too. Team might be going to NYC straight from here?


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    Cinci lineup is makeshift - they have Garza, a RB, as LCB paired with Hagglund.

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    So to the 11 other people on this thread right now....happy to have KJ as against Caldwell on the mic tonight?

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    Ciman?

    Kill me now.

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    And Hagglund as captain! Based on our history, the odds of him scoring are high, i imagine.

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    Is it just me or does the pitch looks like shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inklink View Post
    Is it just me or the pitch looks like shit?
    Yeah. Hopefully Jozy can in for 30 mins or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    So to the 11 other people on this thread right now....happy to have KJ as against Caldwell on the mic tonight?
    Hell yeah, get rid of Caldwell. Basically repeats Luke except he adds "magnificent" and thinks every yellow is harsh.

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    Nice finish!

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    Yay!

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    Mullinzzz

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    Get in

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    Mullins really has some “fox in the box” to his game
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    Great goal.

    Why has everyone been dumping on Mullins? He's been scoring at a decent pace.

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    We can't put a pass together but apparently Cinci can for us

 

 

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