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    Quote Originally Posted by Stress View Post
    It was from the COYR podcast with Wheeler. A few episodes back but I’m unsure which one exactly. Basically said he randomly ran into Seba at a coffee shop and went to briefly say hi but Seba ended up talking his ear off about stuff.
    Yeah I remember that and in no way did it sound like anything more then talking to each other. The phrase "poured his heart out" was not used.

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    My read, it's wishful thinking. Even if Seba regrets going to Saudi, which is completely understandable and believable, fitting him back in the salary structure and with the new people who have been brought in using a new formation is highly implausible.

    OTOH stranger things have happened. Maybe Bradley gets traded to his dad's team for GAM and we sign Giovinco as a DP. I doubt it though.

    Frankly I don't believe a random guy with a random podcast has any "inside information" that any of us "armchair analysts" on this board don't have. Even if he talked to the BMO Field head janitor or something. Anyone can do a podcast.
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    To be honest I don't miss the rolling around on the ground but he can still contribute something if he ever came back I would say even at his current age. The thing is why would he play hardball for more money then get it and leave then come back for what would have to be way less? That is the main reason why I think all this is just people talking for the sake of talking about this just because he came back for a bit to visit TO. Seems like talk that would come up in the off season because we are bored as hell and looking for something TFC related to talk about. I can't see him taking a big pay cut after being so adamant about the initial TFC offer not being enough to stay. Life overseas really that bad? Who knows though, maybe he will eat a big slice of humble pie and take a pay cut and come back to play with TFC. Maybe he now realizes that he had a good thing going and regrets his decision to leave for the paycheck. Who knows....I seriously doubt it but I would never say never in life. Shit happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    Yeah I remember that and in no way did it sound like anything more then talking to each other. The phrase "poured his heart out" was not used.
    So it’s the very beginning of episode 169. Dunfield literally says “poured his heart out”. “Talked for 2 hours”. Says something about not wanting to leave people on a cliff hanger but then Wheeler interrupts and he ends with he “misses Toronto”.

    Edit: just to clarify I don’t necessarily believe it will happen but I do believe there is enough to suggest it’s possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    Actually I think all the guys saying “Let It Go” need to let that go! ;-)

    It is obvious that this could be a real story. There is a long distance from here to there (agreeing on a salary, allocation order, Bradley)... but it is credible that something could be up.

    The trainer story, Seba being benched in Saudi, him spending a lot of time in TO, him spending time at TFC and Raps games, hints in IG stories, a whole bunch of twitter stuff, some of it involving TFC players....

    any one of these you can knock down, but all together, they are a pattern...
    We know that Seba loves Toronto and spends lots of time here. It may well be true that he isn’t happy in Saudi. Nonetheless, he’s got a contract and he’s doing his preseason with them. He may want to come back to TFC, but the hurdles are pretty big at this point. He got benched over there for a couple of games as he came into a late season title race in pre-season form. We’ll see what happens after he gets a pre-season with them and plays the Asian CL matches in August. Sure, he may want to come back to Toronto, but he has little leverage to make it happen at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stress View Post
    So it’s the very beginning of episode 169. Dunfield literally says “poured his heart out”. “Talked for 2 hours”. Says something about not wanting to leave people on a cliff hanger but then Wheeler interrupts and he ends with he “misses Toronto”.

    Edit: just to clarify I don’t necessarily believe it will happen but I do believe there is enough to suggest it’s possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We know that Seba loves Toronto and spends lots of time here. It may well be true that he isn’t happy in Saudi. Nonetheless, he’s got a contract and he’s doing his preseason with them. He may want to come back to TFC, but the hurdles are pretty big at this point. He got benched over there for a couple of games as he came into a late season title race in pre-season form. We’ll see what happens after he gets a pre-season with them and plays the Asian CL matches in August. Sure, he may want to come back to Toronto, but he has little leverage to make it happen at this point.
    All true.

    I just think Manning could have killed off these stories fairly easily if he really wanted to. It's a pretty captive media here. But he hasn't, it keeps popping. Whack-a-mole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ensco View Post
    All true.

    I just think Manning could have killed off these stories fairly easily if he really wanted to. It's a pretty captive media here. But he hasn't, it keeps popping. Whack-a-mole.
    Maybe they're lobbying MLS for an offseason TAM increase/4th dp that would cover it. He's probably got at least two more seasons in him and it's both a great narrative for the league to have him come back and hew as immensely popular. He gives MLS credibility (although he looked pretty tired by the end of 2018 season.)

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    yeah...about all this


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    The list we've held the #1 spot on twice recently. Which people are going to use as either proof it isn't happening, or argue that means we can get there a third time, whichever fits their narrative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben - D.O.W. View Post
    The list we've held the #1 spot on twice recently. Which people are going to use as either proof it isn't happening, or argue that means we can get there a third time, whichever fits their narrative.
    Allocation is pretty irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OgtheDim View Post
    yeah...about all this

    That’s crazy talk. This league and its rules... stupid.

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    I doubt it will be him that we're looking at. I think we should we should be looking at a versatile forward though but obviously at TAM level only regardless of Bradley.

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    *IF* Giovinco were to come back, what jersey number would he take since Pozo has the 10? Take #11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydermike View Post
    *IF* Giovinco were to come back, what jersey number would he take since Pozo has the 10? Take #11?
    I'm pretty sure he is coming back so this is a really interesting/relevant question.

    Shaff was pretty invisible tonight, with Gallardo and Seba and Oso back this team is going to be really fun to watch again at BMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevep View Post
    I'm pretty sure he is coming back so this is a really interesting/relevant question.

    Shaff was pretty invisible tonight, with Gallardo and Seba and Oso back this team is going to be really fun to watch again at BMO

    Upon reflection I think you give #10 back to Giovinco

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    In the 1/100 chance Seba comes back, he's certainly not taking the No. 10 from the organization's new star, whose jersey is already on most racks, for a short-term stay.

    He wore No. 12 for Juve in the years leading up to his move, so I'd say that is most likely. Spent some time with Nos. 20 (Akinola) and 21 (Oso), but I guess Ayo isn't really in a position to refuse a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    In the 1/100 chance Seba comes back, he's certainly not taking the No. 10 from the organization's new star, whose jersey is already on most racks, for a short-term stay.

    He wore No. 12 for Juve in the years leading up to his move, so I'd say that is most likely. Spent some time with Nos. 20 (Akinola) and 21 (Oso), but I guess Ayo isn't really in a position to refuse a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    In the 1/100 chance Seba comes back, he's certainly not taking the No. 10 from the organization's new star, whose jersey is already on most racks, for a short-term stay.

    He wore No. 12 for Juve in the years leading up to his move, so I'd say that is most likely. Spent some time with Nos. 20 (Akinola) and 21 (Oso), but I guess Ayo isn't really in a position to refuse a change.
    Giovinco likes star numbers. He won't go back to his Juve number 12, which I think was assigned to him. When given the choice he's worn 21 and 10 (Italy, Parma, and Toronto) and then when he went to Al-Hilal he took #9. I feel here he'd grab #11 or the now vacant #7. No chance he takes 12.

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    This is some good news. Last night I was on tfc live Twitter reading the hate for vanney comments when I saw this tweet by this serie a writer. Rocco fassano
    He cliams he was the one who first broke the news of gio leaving Toronto.
    Anyways he says gio and tfc are just working out the financial numbers and that seba is coming back.

    https://twitter.com/CatenaccioNA/status/1152747093490114561?s=20

 

 

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